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  • #31
    Originally posted by Welsh Jon View Post
    I think Fitzsimmons is defo a top 10 middleweight. He beat an ATG, Dempsey for the middleweight title, he beat another hall of fame middleweight Joe Chonyski and he also KO'd several top heavyweights while still weighting in as a middleweight.
    This also is not debatable.

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    • #32
      1. Ezzard Charles
      2. Archie Moore
      3. Gene Tunney
      4. Michael Spinks
      5. Maxie Rosenbloom/Jimmy Bivins
      Last edited by SBleeder; 08-23-2012, 01:46 PM.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by poet682006 View Post
        I actually classify Langford as Middleweight. I used to rank him at Welter but the late GJC convinced me that Middle was more apropos.

        Poet
        God bless GJC, a legend in these parts.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
          It is difficult considering a lot of fights happend at "Heavyweight" were pretty much Light Heavyweight fights. With both fighters being 180 or less.

          For example, Johnson-Charles was "Officially" a Heavyweight fight but I rank it at LHW for Johnson.

          But Ezzard Charles is absolutely no question a Top 5 LHW. It's very difficult to consider him to be lower than #1. Only person who has an argument is Archie Moore.
          Sadly Archie Moore lost three times to prime Charles, has to tip the argument in his favour.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Sugarj View Post
            God bless GJC, a legend in these parts.
            I miss the old fellow! One of my closest friends on Boxing Scene :allhail9:

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            • #36
              Originally posted by poet682006 View Post
              I miss the old fellow! One of my closest friends on Boxing Scene :allhail9:
              He was very knowledgeable, and achingly nice with it. One of the best internet posters I've come across on any website......and the irony was that he'd taken it up in his 70s!!

              Theres a lesson for us all somewhere in there.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Sugarj View Post
                Sadly Archie Moore lost three times to prime Charles, has to tip the argument in his favour.
                Well, like I said, it's hard to argue Ezzard Charles to be lower than #1.

                However, despite losing to Charles 3 times, Moore's resume also has an argument to be #1.

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                • #38
                  going into to this my thoughts were #! charles
                  #2 tunney
                  #3 moore
                  #4 spinks
                  #5 foster

                  I gave some thought to Billy Conn and have heard of Maxie Rosenburg and am also suprised that Tommy Loughram was not mentioned he may sneak into my top five replacing foster.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by NChristo View Post
                    Nope, not really done out of speculation, Light Heavy is arguably his strongest weight.

                    As a small light heavy he was regularly beating men much bigger then himself (Proven heavies in McVea, Jeanette, Klon***e, Gunboat Smith and others) which should add too his Light Heavy resume and not his Heavyweight seeing as he still weighed below 175 and above 160, he was 50-1 (might be wrong and he has 2 losses ?) while fighting these much bigger men between 1908 - 1912.

                    It's obviously all down too opinion but give me Langfords Light Heavy resume over Foster's anytime, especially with Foster generally being the bigger man against his opponents.
                    I am pretty sure in a lot of the fights you mentioned his weight has not been recorded. So some speculation is involved in ranking him at light-heavy.

                    I think his best weight was middleweight not light-heavy.

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                    • #40
                      Ezzard Charles
                      Archie Moore
                      Bob Foster
                      Michael Spinks
                      Tommy Loughran/Maxie Rosenbloom.

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