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  • #11
    Originally posted by Sugarj View Post
    Has anyone mentioned Harry Greb yet? Granted, he is generally thought of as a middleweight.
    Maybe the greatest Supermiddleweight of all time

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    • #12
      Originally posted by Sugarj View Post
      Has anyone mentioned Harry Greb yet? Granted, he is generally thought of as a middleweight.
      Sam Langford needs a mention as well, has a strong case for top 5.

      Bob Foster's resume isn't strong enough for top 5 imo.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by taansend View Post
        He makes my Top Five.

        In no particular order.......
        Bob Foster
        Archie Moore
        John Henry Lewis
        Michael Spinks
        Gene Tunney

        With an honourable mention to Georges Carpentier who lost many of his prime years to WWI.
        Carpentier shouldn't be anywhere near a top 10 LHW list.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by taansend View Post
          Do you honestly believe that Bob Fitzsimmons belongs in the top five Light Heavies? Or any division, to be honest. Great fighter he was but he was not great in any division. Maybe Middleweight but probably still not even top ten there.

          And Moore should be on everyones list but many of our readers are 1980's onwards so fair enough. Hopefully they'll read about these older names we mention & look them up & learn (like I did 30 odd years ago).
          I think Fitzsimmons is defo a top 10 middleweight. He beat an ATG, Dempsey for the middleweight title, he beat another hall of fame middleweight Joe Chonyski and he also KO'd several top heavyweights while still weighting in as a middleweight.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by NChristo View Post
            Sam Langford needs a mention as well, has a strong case for top 5.

            Bob Foster's resume isn't strong enough for top 5 imo.
            Not sure I'm comfortable ranking Langford as high as 5 for light-heavy. I don't think he ever actively campaigned as a light-heavyweight, unlike at middleweight and heavy where he won several titles, coloured championships, regional titles and the like.

            I think people who rank him so highly at light-heavy do so out of speculation of how well he would have done had a campaigned regulary at the weight, which I think is unfair on the likes of Spinks, Rosenbloom, Greb, Harold Johnson, Bob Foster who excellent light-heavyweight resumes are more clear-cut.

            I think Langford is the P4P number 1 btw, I just don't think it's fair to rank him so highly at Light-heavy.

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            • #16
              1.Foster
              2.Moore
              3.Spinks
              4.Charles

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              • #17
                1. Ezzard Charles
                2. Archie Moore
                3. Gene Tunney
                4. Micheal Spinks
                5. Harold Johnson

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by NChristo View Post
                  Sam Langford needs a mention as well, has a strong case for top 5.

                  Bob Foster's resume isn't strong enough for top 5 imo.
                  Nor is it close.

                  Only way I could possibly understand someone ranking Bob Foster in the Top 5 at LHW is due to H2H ability.

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                  • #19
                    My top 2 is Ezzard Charles and Archie Moore. I wish they had footage of that triology.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by NChristo View Post
                      Sam Langford needs a mention as well, has a strong case for top 5.

                      Bob Foster's resume isn't strong enough for top 5 imo.
                      I gave Sam some serious thought, but he was classed as a heavyweight rather than a light heavyweight......despite what he weighed, which was often not recorded.

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