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  • #81
    Originally posted by Spartacus Sully View Post
    are you going to argue against my point or just make yourself seem pathetic by insulting me and my opinion?

    i could go fruther into my point but really all you need to do is watch any combo trade that mike is involved in and count how many times he misses or is clearly blocked.
    Really now? heres a better idea, how about we count how many punches Marcinao misses when he has a tired, beaten Archie Moore on the ropes in their match. Come on you must be trolling.

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    • #82
      Originally posted by kendom View Post
      Really now? heres a better idea, how about we count how many punches Marcinao misses when he has a tired, beaten Archie Moore on the ropes in their match. Come on you must be trolling.
      so were just going to assume that archie moore = any of tysons opponets?

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      • #83
        Originally posted by Spartacus Sully View Post
        so were just going to assume that archie moore = any of tysons opponets?
        What does this mean? the guy was missing most of his punches against a tired stationary Archie Moore who was an old light-heavyweight. Something that should have been ended wiith a couple of punches was dragged out. Its not even like Moore was doing much to avoid the punches he was just lying on the ropes nearly finished, and because of Marciano's terrible accuracy he took ages to pulll the trigger. Tyson would have ended Moore with one punch in that state and it wouldnt have taken 9 rounds either.

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        • #84
          Just watched this



          and this:



          and ive even more impressed with marciano, his use of fainting the right and following up with it is amazing.

          but still i dont see many misses, i see alot of shots well blocked by moore, and alot of fainted rights that look like misses.

          but over all in the 4 rounds i watched i saw about as many misses by marciano against moore as i see in 1 5 second flurry of hooks from tyson against no name opponets. and like moores actually slipping the punches that miss, while tyson just misses the head completly.


          maybe im not watching the right clips, perhaps you could provide a better one?

          Is this the one??/



          at 4:40-5:35 marcianos got moores back to the ropes, i see 2-4 misses, if anything watching those 50 seconds of arcie moore and marciano trade off is clear proof that marciano was better at throwing combos, or atleast that he is rather quite underated in the combo department.
          Last edited by Spartacus Sully; 05-02-2012, 03:32 AM.

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          • #85
            Originally posted by kendom View Post
            What does this mean? the guy was missing most of his punches against a tired stationary Archie Moore who was an old light-heavyweight. Something that should have been ended wiith a couple of punches was dragged out. Its not even like Moore was doing much to avoid the punches he was just lying on the ropes nearly finished, and because of Marciano's terrible accuracy he took ages to pulll the trigger. Tyson would have ended Moore with one punch in that state and it wouldnt have taken 9 rounds either.
            sorry i missed this, my guess is that you havnt watched the moore vs marciano fight in a while. theres a video above, i reccomend you check it out. missing most of his punches.....LOL Moore not doing much??? LOLs stationary!!!! LOLS have you even seen what your talking about?

            Enjoy the video.
            Last edited by Spartacus Sully; 05-02-2012, 05:12 AM.

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            • #86
              Originally posted by Spartacus Sully View Post
              Just watched this



              and this:



              and ive even more impressed with marciano, his use of fainting the right and following up with it is amazing.

              but still i dont see many misses, i see alot of shots well blocked by moore, and alot of fainted rights that look like misses.

              but over all in the 4 rounds i watched i saw about as many misses by marciano against moore as i see in 1 5 second flurry of hooks from tyson against no name opponets. and like moores actually slipping the punches that miss, while tyson just misses the head completly.


              maybe im not watching the right clips, perhaps you could provide a better one?

              Is this the one??/



              at 4:40-5:35 marcianos got moores back to the ropes, i see 2-4 misses, if anything watching those 50 seconds of arcie moore and marciano trade off is clear proof that marciano was better at throwing combos, or atleast that he is rather quite underated in the combo department.
              Lol what? these are the videos that prove Marciano is better at throwing combos than Mike Tyson? his punches are wider and sloppier, when he misses he's off balance and leaves himself open, unlike Mike whos always in punching position, throws quick sharp accurate that connect with full power and are not just clubbing punches.

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              • #87
                Originally posted by Spartacus Sully View Post
                sorry i missed this, my guess is that you havnt watched the moore vs marciano fight in a while. theres a video above, i reccomend you check it out. missing most of his punches.....LOL Moore not doing much??? LOLs stationary!!!! LOLS have you even seen what your talking about?

                Enjoy the video.
                The commentator said himself at 5:19 "Moores legs are so.. so nearly gone, Moore wasnt moving much he was stationary on his feet and showing a little head movement, obviously tired and obviously finished, and Marciano still took much longer to put him away than he should have. Tyson would have finished Moore at that stage with half the number of punches that Marciano did.

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                • #88
                  the proof is in the video people can make their own decisions.

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                  • #89
                    Tyson was supremely gifted. Awesome offensive skill, great defense too.

                    Weaknesses were all mental.

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                    • #90
                      Could have been the greatest of all time, he still was the most exciting fighter of all time. He could end a fight in the first round or with one punch at any time. His power and superior head movement made him unbeatable, but when he hooked up with Don King he let women and bad decisions (firing Rooney and Bill Clayton, marrying that gold digger and not training for the Douglas fight) destroy him.

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