Why do so many of you hate on muhammad ali?

[RockyMarcianofan00]

don't make me laugh. see, this is what i'm talking about. ali beat frazier, so frazier fans will say that frazier will kill ali, just out of anger that this man conquered his favorite fighter.

"ali even said so." you know what that's called? respect. every fighter does it. you think right after a fight, he would say, yeah, well if i was younger i would beat him? no! that is showing no class and sportsmanship. well, answer me this? if frazier could beat ali easily in his prime, then how come a prime frazier struggled against a lay-off ridden and slower ali? that doesn't make any sense.

this is exactly the kind of jive i was talking about. hating on ali. and you have such weak reasons when matching him up against other fighters, it's just sad.

since when was ali worried about sportsmanship


seriously though i think your confusing hate with not being favorite fighter

I don't hate Ali but he's not my favorite fighter either

[hellfire508]

I didn't say Frazier would kill Ali. I'm saying Frazier would beat him the majority of the time in prime matchups. It's not out of anger, it's out of skills and styles.

Ali had no class. He would disrespect his black opponents on a regular basis. Badly. He treated them so bad, that some hated him for years. He was a womanizer. He contradicted himself all the time. He didn't even have a clue what he was standing up for. ******s would just feed him lines like "I ain't got no quarrel with them Viet Cong". He picked up his whole persona from a ****ing wrestler he watched as a kid.

He didn't really struggle. Ali went all out in the first few rounds, trying to put away Frazier early. But Frazier connected with hooks on a regular basis. The only good laters rounds that Ali had were 9 and 14. Frazier gave him the beating of a lifetime.

No, reasoning has nothing to do with it. You're just mad that I pick against Ali. God forbid.

Bottom line is, Ali got the better of the trilogy. Frazier fought the fight of his life against Ali in 71, whereas Ali was a long way from the Ali that danced cirles around Terrell, Williams and Folley. He wasn't moving much at all, and looked a little sluggish at times. He came back after 3.5 years off, faced Quarry and Bonavena (3rd and 4th contenders), then fought the undefeated Frazier for the title. Then people will say - the first fight was the closest fight to both their primes. True. Frazier won 9-6 in my book. Second fight - Frazier had slipped a little, after the loss to Foreman. However, Ali had also slipped further, and a couple of fights of his loss to Norton. Ali dominated and won 7-5 on my card. Third fight - both were shot, both went life and death, Ali came out the victor - winning 9-4-1 or 9-5 in my book.

The second fight is the one which resembles a prime Ali the most. He was a long way off his prime, but his tactics were more like a 66-7 Ali. He was dancing, throwing combinations, hitting on the move... a much more dominant Ali. Likewise with the 2nd Norton fight. When Ali chose to dance, he ran all over Norton. Frazier and Norton were always going to be more effective vs. a 70s Ali, and to be honest - I think would be dominated against a prime Ali. Fighters like Holmes I see giving Ali more trouble prime.

[+= El Jefe=+]

i see the ali hating started back on this forum.

dude from all my time here in BS i've only head two guys talk **** about ali and they both left already.
who is hating on ali ??

[hellfire508]

Yeah actually Butterfly, "hating" on Ali isnt all that common. Just cos someone thinks that Tyson could have landed a punch against Ali doesnt mean they are hating.

[Verstyle]

What has thinking somebody could beat Muhammad Ali got to do with hating him?

I am almost positive that you and that tommyhearns804 fella are the same guy. You seem more polite, but something aint right here.

oh no oh no. tommyhearns hates tyson to death. he could nt hide that

[mayweather]

the only resentment i have is, as well as tyson and jones and other great champs, he went on longer than he should have cus he thought he still had somethin left. Agreed, in his prime he was the **** but hes fights later in his career were like clinchfests. They werent classic ali great action fights. It was pointless. He was amazing though.

[moondog0]

If you have ever coached a sport in your life or had a kid playing sports you want them to play with everything they have every time they play. Ali didn't put any effort into a lot of his later fights and fought many bad fighters that showed him up round after round. Tyson dominated the fights he won and then because of mental illness his career folded at a young age.I'm not saying Tyson would have beaten Ali, but he would have had a chance, especially if he would have fought him on one of Ali's numerous bad nights.

[Southpaw Stinger]

Ali trained hard and fought well and destroyed seemingly invincible opponents. When he was going to fight a low down fighter, he didn't train properly and didn't take the fight seriously. Ali neve rput 100% in all of his fights.

[imike]

Hate Muhammad Ali

I totally agreed that Muhammad Ali is the greatest of all times. I also agreed that some people might hate Muhammad Ali for certain reasons. However I must say that Muhammad Ali has achieved a lot and he should be respected. However we cannot force everyone to like Muhammad Ali. As long as when you are fans of Muhammad Ali, just don't care about others people opinions. No doubts Muhammad Ali is the best!!!

[butterfly1964]

yeah, i gotta agree with that, ali was an *******, never concerned about sportmanship, just appearances. he was always trying to be pretty to be popular, sell his fights. he didnt give a **** about anyone, opponents or otherwise, including his wives. he was a better salesman than a boxer.

but still he's not gonna talk **** right after he lost, would he?