Why do so many hardcore boxing fans like to pretend that De La Hoya isn't an ATG?

[IronDanHamza]

I would never attempt to make a list of top 100 fighters of all time, so I can't honestly say that De La Hoya is not a top 100 worthy fighter.

But I can say that I believe that from his generation of fighters, Pernell Whitaker, JCC, RJJ, Manny Pacquiao, Floyd Mayweather Jr, Bernard Hopkins and Evander Holyfield were/are all better than him. So he's a top 10 fighter of the last 20 years.

Where that leaves him ranked overall I wouldn't like to say.

I'd also add off the top of my head; Morales, Barrera, Marquez, Toney, McCallum (A lot of his top wins were over 22 years ago but he still has a great list in the last 22) and Trinidad who I would rank above him in the last 20 years.

So he wouldn't be in my Top 10 of the last 22 years.

[Dubbed90]

I would never attempt to make a list of top 100 fighters of all time, so I can't honestly say that De La Hoya is not a top 100 worthy fighter.

But I can say that I believe that from his generation of fighters, Pernell Whitaker, JCC, RJJ, Manny Pacquiao, Floyd Mayweather Jr, Bernard Hopkins and Evander Holyfield were/are all better than him. So he's a top 10 fighter of the last 20 years.

Where that leaves him ranked overall I wouldn't like to say.

Pacquiao? ****in facepalm.

[Scott9945]

De La Hoya is an all time great box office attraction, and as Dan said a first ballot hall of famer. As an ATG fighter, he falls considerably short, IMO.

[Welsh Jon]

Pacquiao? ****in facepalm.

Care to explain why ****in faceplam?

[Sugarj]

another good post.

while i think there would probably be at least an argument for 100 other boxers in front of oscar i have no qualms whatsoever in calling him a bonafide great fighter
and if people want to rank him somewhere in the latter half of their top 100 i'm all for hearing out their cases.


oscar was a handful for anybody at LW as well. i'm not saying he's an ATG beater necessarily, but his chin, jab, punch, and skills make him a handful

he lost many of his biggest fights, but he took on all comers.
other than the hook and the fame i think he'll be remembered for that the most.

as you said, he fought EVERYBody

friggin gatti to hopkins
mayweather to vargas
pacquiao to quartey

i could go on. the guy has an unbelievable resume as an amateur and pro. and he was in some great fights. quartey, vargas, and of course mosley 1 are classic fights.

he lost 5 out of 228 amateur fights!

223 wins!

Cheers bud

[jrosales13]

Oscar is an ATG draw, PPV attraction. He is in the elite of elites in that category. First ballot HOF'er IMO. If I could vote for the HOF and I see Oscar name on the ballot. I would vote for him.

However, an ATG fighter? He is not. He's not even top 100 ATG. He is not top 10 in the last 25 years. Which is close to my lifetime. He is just not an ATG fighter, he falls very short of that.

[Obama]

Meh, he's a borderline case. Depends on your criteria for ATG, top 100 p4p yay above that nay? He's probably somewhere around 100...

[Capaedia]

I once heard him described as 'not the sum of his parts' on this forum.

That describes him very well, he could've been an ATG, but for whatever reason or combination of reasons, was not.

[Junior M Weight]

Pacquiao? ****in facepalm.

Care to explain why ****in faceplam?

Look at oscars resume. No way in hell the ******* survives and does as well as oscar if he goes through the list.

Pacman would ask Trinidad/Vargas/Whitaker to fight at a catchweight if they ever met. The funny and sad part about this statement is that its true.

I will always remember Oscar for giving away the fight to Trinidad. Never been so angry over a boxing match in my life.

[Scott9945]

Look at oscars resume. No way in hell the ******* survives and does as well as oscar if he goes through the list.

Pacman would ask Trinidad/Vargas/Whitaker to fight at a catchweight if they ever met. The funny and sad part about this statement is that its true.

I will always remember Oscar for giving away the fight to Trinidad. Never been so angry over a boxing match in my life.

I was angry that I paid $50 for a crap fight. Oscar losing made it better for me though.