Robberies?

[joseph5620]

I forgot to comment on Leonard vs Hagler in my earlier post.

I've always scored that one to Leonard, I've never seen the controversy at all. Not a hope that Hagler won 6 of the rounds in that fight to my eyes.

I agree. Hagler clearly lost the first four and lost some others too. Hagler didn't get robbed no matter how much he complains today. Although one judge scored it for Leonard by too wide a margin.

[Barn]

I agree. Hagler clearly lost the first four and lost some others too. Hagler didn't get robbed no matter how much he complains today. Although one judge scored it for Leonard by too wide a margin.

Hagler won 6-5-1!

I remember scoring round 3 for Hagler as well.

[Welsh Jon]

Walcott probably deserved the decision over Louis first time round.

Spinks probably shaded Holmes first time round, but Holmes arguably should have been awarded the rematch.

I did shade the second Ali Norton match to Ali by virtue of the last round. Their third fight was more contentious.

Whitaker should have got the nod over Chavez.

A draw was fair in the Leonard vs Hearns rematch. Though I personally scored it by a round to Hearns.

Lewis was blatantly robbed in the first match with Holyfield.

Oscar should have got the decision in the rematch with Mosley.

Sturm should have been awarded the decision against Oscar.

Watching live I felt that Hopkins deserved the verdict against Calzaghe. But on rewatching I scored it for Joe.

Similar with Marquez. Watching live I felt that he clearly outpointed Pac. But on rewatching and scoring, he probably only shaded it by a round or two.

The other fights aren't fresh enough in memory.

As for the Chavez vs Taylor stoppage..................err tough call. No one really deserved to lose that fight, it was a classic.

I agree that Norton-Ali III was closer than the 2nd fight and that the 2nd Spinks fight looked more like a robbery but I feel the fights that I listed were the more historically significant ones. And were still close enough to be contentious.

As for Pac - JMM even though it may be tighter than it 1st seemed when you re-watch it I still don't see how it can be given to Pac.

[Welsh Jon]

Harold Johnson-Willie Pastrano is more of a robbery than most of those examples.

Fair enough, but I haven't seen that one.

Any opinions on the fights I did list?

[Welsh Jon]

Hagler won 6-5-1!

I remember scoring round 3 for Hagler as well.

Yeah I think Hagler just did enough to retain.

Not a robbery though. Just one that could have gone either way.

[joseph5620]

Hagler won 6-5-1!

I remember scoring round 3 for Hagler as well.

LOL I won't argue with you Barn. I do agree the fight was close.

[Scott9945]

This although I felt Pacquiao vs Marquez III was a blatant robbery.

I thought JMM won a close one, but there were at least three major fights that I saw last year with worse decisions.

[Barn]

I thought JMM won a close one, but there were at least three major fights that I saw last year with worse decisions.

I scored it 8-4 to Marquez.

Put that into context with my scores of 114-113 to Pacquiao in the first fight and a draw in the second.

[IronDanHamza]

Fair enough, but I haven't seen that one.

Any opinions on the fights I did list?

I consider most, if not all of those examples as robberies. Including Pacquaio-Marquez.

I've watched it over 5 times and it's an absolute robbery IMO.

I'd say the biggest robbery on the list is probably Whitaker-Ramirez.

Johnson-Pastrano is on youtube I believe, check it out when you can.

[joseph5620]

I want to add Martinez-Cintron. That was one of the worse I've seen.