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  • #21
    Roger Tilleman, Russell Mora and the guy who officiated Dimitrenko-Sprott got too involved for my taste. Basically any referee who makes a show out of himself.

    Safe to say that Wyatt Earp wasn't the best of referees.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post
      Since this is the history section I'll go with Wyatt Earp, who had never reffed a fight before, took a bribe and disqualified Bob Fitzsimmons against Tom Sharkey from a blow that never landed, and promptly never reffed another fight again.

      Bat Materson's hatchet job in calling draw in the Joe Gans-Elbows McFadden fight in 1899 also deserves mention.
      ^^^^ Good stuff Jab. I know you planned a thread around that info. I hope I didn't ruin it for you.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by New England View Post
        ian john lewis
        not sure if thats how you spell his name

        and the guy is not worth looking up on the boxrec.

        thats the guy that blew the andrade knockout of bute


        also honorable mention has to go to the ref of konstantin airich and danny williams. that guy was every bit of incompetent

        dos puntos!
        dos puntos!
        dos puntos!
        The homer-ref. for Bute-Andrade I was Marlon Wright.



        Another guy of today receiving hometown treament is Andre Ward fighting out of jOakland. In his fight with Mikkel Kessler the Showtime commentators counted 5 headbutts that left Kessler's face in shreds. Imagine that. Here we have a referee who watches 5 headbutts and calls every single one of them accidental.

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        • #24
          The single worst refereeing job in a fight I have ever seen was Isidoro Rodriguez in the first Juan Coggi-Eder Gonzalez fight. The fight took place in Coggi's home country, Argentina...

          Gonzalez blasted Coggi with a counter right, flattening him. Coggi didn't get up until about 15, then was stageering on the ropes badly. Gonzales was then whaling on Coggi in the corner, when the referee for some reason broke them up and didn't give Coggi a count. At that point, Coggi still couldn't stand, but the referee didn't stop it. The referee then grabs Coggi, as if the fight is over, and Gonzales thinks that he just won the championship, but the fight wasn't over. Coggi's corner gets up on the ring apron, which should have been an automatic disqualification the time stopped for about 30 seconds for Coggi to recover, and the fight continued....Coggi went on to stop Gonzalez.

          An outrageous robbery.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by The_Demon View Post
            Joe Cortez is the most inconsistent referee ive ever seen,its one rule for one fighter and another rule for the other its disgraceful
            How the hell does a ref like Joe Cortez make it to the Hall of Fame?? Perhaps it was really the Hall of Shame... either that or someone (the fans) were really getting 'Punked' ???

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            • #26
              Has anyone mentioned Lawrence Cole?

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              • #27
                Originally posted by Lorily View Post
                How the hell does a ref like Joe Cortez make it to the Hall of Fame?? Perhaps it was really the Hall of Shame... either that or someone (the fans) were really getting 'Punked' ???
                The IBHOF is a neat organization, but it's never been completely free from improper influences.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by jabsRstiff View Post
                  The single worst refereeing job in a fight I have ever seen was Isidoro Rodriguez in the first Juan Coggi-Eder Gonzalez fight. The fight took place in Coggi's home country, Argentina...

                  Gonzalez blasted Coggi with a counter right, flattening him. Coggi didn't get up until about 15, then was stageering on the ropes badly. Gonzales was then whaling on Coggi in the corner, when the referee for some reason broke them up and didn't give Coggi a count. At that point, Coggi still couldn't stand, but the referee didn't stop it. The referee then grabs Coggi, as if the fight is over, and Gonzales thinks that he just won the championship, but the fight wasn't over. Coggi's corner gets up on the ring apron, which should have been an automatic disqualification the time stopped for about 30 seconds for Coggi to recover, and the fight continued....Coggi went on to stop Gonzalez.

                  An outrageous robbery.
                  Good stuff man. I just watched the fight and this must take the cake. Appauling job by the ref and yet an incredible and exiting sequence.

                  Here's what happened:

                  Coggi rewarded their patience by leaping in with a long, hard left cross to the jaw that snapped Gonzalez�s head back and forced him to retreat to the corner pad while hopping on his right foot. Gonzalez was clearly hurt and Coggi jumped on him, getting close and mixing his blows nicely between head and body. Gonzalez forced Coggi back by bulling with the shoulder and throwing a long right but Coggi drove him back to the ropes with two more stinging lefts. A right hook to the jaw dropped Gonzalez heavily to his knees 1:15 into the round and Gonzalez wore a pained and perplexed expression as he arose at the count of four.

                  Coggi appeared to be seconds away from a convincing victory, and on most days that perception would have been correct. But December 17, 1993 was not one of those days, and the events of the next several minutes would rank as among the most exciting yet bizarre sequences ever witnessed in championship competition.

                  After referee Isidro Rodriguez, who was working his 63rd championship contest, completed the count, Gonzalez backed toward the corner pad and Coggi inched his way forward to set up the finisher. But Gonzalez had a surprise for him as he launched a monstrous lead right that exploded off Coggi�s jaw. The effects of the blow rippled through the champion�s body in a most dramatic way. His upper body pitched forward and his arms dropped to the side before falling backward as if descending through water. Finally, his stiffened frame crashed to the floor with a resounding thud. As he lay on the canvas, Coggi�s eyes were wide but unseeing as he struggled to get his legs under him. The champion�s reign was in mortal danger of ending then and there � after all, most fighters hit with such a bomb rarely muster enough energy to lift their heads much less regain their feet.

                  Somehow, Coggi pulled himself erect. Though 14 seconds had elapsed in real time, all Coggi had to do was get up by Rodriguez�s count of 10, which he did. Still, he was in terrible shape as he hopped on his right leg and struggled to regain his equilibrium. After Rodriguez wiped his gloves, Coggi wobbled to the corner pad and Gonzalez jumped in with a series of smothering punches. Gonzalez landed a chopping right to the side of the head and two left hooks to the jaw that caused Coggi�s upper body to fall into Rodriguez.

                  As Coggi fell into the ropes on stiffened legs, Rodriguez wrapped his arms around the Argentine favorite. Normally this gesture would signal the end of the fight, but for reasons only Rodriguez can explain he wasn�t stopping the fight, he was helping Coggi to stay upright! Rodriguez steadied the champion by pinioning him to the corner with his upper body while holding the upper strand of ropes with each hand.

                  Meanwhile, a rapturously happy Gonzalez was in the neutral corner hugging his corner man in celebration of his apparent upset victory. But Team Gonzalez had to immediately switch gears after Rodriguez let go of Coggi, walked to their corner and informed them the fight was continuing. Forty-six seconds remained in the round, plenty of time to apply the finishing touches to a champion who was struggling just to remain conscious.

                  By now the scene was a mass of confusion as another player joined the fray. With 42 seconds on the clock, Coggi�s adviser Luis Spada jumped onto the ring apron outside the ropes to get Coggi�s attention. Fighting through his mental fog, Coggi turned and staggered into the corner. When Coggi turned toward ring center, Spada hooked two fingers around Coggi�s trunks from behind to stabilize his champion and yelled several instructions into his ear. Spada�s act normally would have led to his fighter�s immediate disqualification, but Rodriguez didn�t know what to do to reverse a situation that was quickly spiraling out of control.

                  More time ticked off and nothing was happening. Gonzalez was in his corner bouncing on his toes waiting for Rodriguez�s next command while the groggy Coggi sought to adjust a mouthpiece that was about to fall to the canvas. Finally, with 27 seconds left in the round, Rodriguez signaled the fight to continue � with Spada still on the ring apron holding up his fighter. With Coggi unable to move he was a sitting duck for Gonzalez, who wound up and blasted his wide-open target with an overhand right to the jaw. Had Spada not been there, Coggi surely would have fallen to the canvas. But Spada was there to wrap his right arm around Coggi�s chest to keep him from collapsing.

                  After landing that titanic right, Gonzalez then backed off a step and Rodriguez stepped in the breech. Gonzalez walked to his corner believing the fight was over because he had just smashed a defenseless opponent, but the referee indicated the round had ended. There were two problems with Rodriguez�s indication � no bell could be heard above the din and had there been a bell, it would have rung 20 seconds early.

                  It is safe to say that had these circumstances taken place on another day and in virtually any other spot around the world, Eder Gonzalez would have been declared the champion, either by clean TKO or by disqualification. But on this day and in this place, the strong odor of home cooking permeated the hearts, minds and actions of those who had a direct bearing on this contest.

                  Better still: Here's the dramatic sequence:

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                  • #29
                    Walcott for Liston-Ali
                    French idiot for Benn-mcclellan
                    Joe Cortez
                    Rusell Mora for Mares-Agbeko

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by BattlingNelson View Post
                      The homer-ref. for Bute-Andrade I was Marlon Wright.



                      Another guy of today receiving hometown treament is Andre Ward fighting out of jOakland. In his fight with Mikkel Kessler the Showtime commentators counted 5 headbutts that left Kessler's face in shreds. Imagine that. Here we have a referee who watches 5 headbutts and calls every single one of them accidental.


                      you are wright

                      lol !! ^^


                      i Told you, it wasn't worth checking the guys name out on the boxrec, lol

                      ian john lewis is another terrible ref if memory serves right. at some point i'll randomly remember why. again, not worth checking the boxrec for these clowns.



                      wright, incidentally, reffed almost all of bute's big fights up until the andrade fiasco
                      nearly ever single one!
                      talk about a shady situation
                      that just stinks to high heaven.
                      no wonder fighters don't like to fight there despite all the money bute brings to the table

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