20 billion:Do you agree with D'Amato that a swarming fighter could never beat Foreman

[JAB5239]

Right argee to a myth said online that never was said you crazy person cus wasnt a psychic or could he control who wins or loses a match so that quote is idiotic always has been for those reasons

George angles was simple straight thats makes him way more easier to read cause mike fought people like that and smith wasnt that simple
George was slower then him
george wasted more punches
george was easy to counter
one punch at a time
is any of thighs these a lie no


Smith didn't waste punches as much
much
Smith was a combo puncher
Smith was a type who could punch from angles like I said
Smith hugged more to survive
Smith had real defense not pushing
George was none of these things when young and you cant find a match where he was

what george had over Smith was being stronger being able to manipulate people who wasnt that tech skilled or not in shape or not In shape yet none of these things can go over the tech advantage that Smith had over him

Smith had trouble cause of his speed and he was easy to read compared to mike cause mike was so fast and great at making a person miss most know this to

The quote/myth is mike was weak to uppercuts which is a lie
mike problems was a jab that was fought from range to keep him away

george didn't use a jab to fight like that like a ali or like a Smith

most know george wasted to many punches and most know those dumb quotes you used only works with idiots who dont know how to win a fight vs mike works and it never was anybody who just forced there way by bullying like george did so saying that george catches anybody is bull cause Smith didn't much who was faster then george like I said and was better at timing then george you crazy idiot

So stop that dumb quote of nightmare when nobody that slow or easy to read hit mike often that quote makes no sense never has you crazy follower who doesn't watch matches

for a moment I thought you posted you all time ratings. Than I remembered that will never happen and you're just posting the same old drivel.

[Ascended]

for a moment I thought you posted you all time ratings. Than I remembered that will never happen and you're just posting the same old drivel.

Same old truth like always

[GhostofDempsey]

The prevailing wisdom of Cus is that there were very few fighters throughout history who could go toe-to-toe with Foreman, and he is correct. Not too many fighters are going to outslug him, though Lyle did give it the old college try. With Tyson, he wasn't just a crude brawler, he had speed, head movement and could fight on the inside. I think 90's Tyson would have stopped George on his feet. Ref steps in and ends the brutality. Not to say old George wouldn't have landed a few good licks on Mike, but not enough to save the day. Tyson certainly would not have pulled a hit and run job the way Morrison did.

[Ascended]

The prevailing wisdom of Cus is that there were very few fighters throughout history who could go toe-to-toe with Foreman, and he is correct. Not too many fighters are going to outslug him, though Lyle did give it the old college try. With Tyson, he wasn't just a crude brawler, he had speed, head movement and could fight on the inside. I think 90's Tyson would have stopped George on his feet. Ref steps in and ends the brutality. Not to say old George wouldn't have landed a few good licks on Mike, but not enough to save the day. Tyson certainly would not have pulled a hit and run job the way Morrison did.

But mike didn't fight like Ron going head to head so that doesn't make sense or does it make sense to even say george would just bully his way on mike when that never got anybody anywhere they needed to fight from distance and stop mike from landing shots
fighting from distance like a ali or a jim did those long range shots

George didn't fight that way in his young days
Or did george have good defense to stop combos


Tom's style was always like mike just not as good most people can see that his difference was that he could fight off clinching and was more a inside fighter but came in and out and mike was more just a waiter and counter type but same wide punch style like I said

So where did you get mike didnt fight like tom from when tom like i explained punched like mike and doubled up on combos like mike did and ducked in the style of mike

It always seems like you people are blind to and just think of backing off when talking on mike and tom while leaving out punch style and head and upperbody movement which is odd

Everything is on vid showing how tom fought like mike when the only difference was is that tom did fight as a boxer and fought more upright

It wouldnt have matter if tom did fight as more a ducked when he fought so much like mike

The other difference is mike was way more skilled then tom

Tom would destroy young George easy and fast off of those same counters

tom would even do 3 punch combos like Mike but was more just out of random mike didnt do his like that often he usally did combos off counters so you dont know what your talking about saying that dumb quote of hit and run

Why would tom just stand there it wasn't any reason ron did it other then to show he was tough to taking shots it was dumb so no him using the ring which you used the dumb quote of running made no sense

It wasnt called running when ali was blocking he would have been koed had he just let george just pound on him see how the quotes you use are dumb

Tom used his advantage you know like mike had over George

This is a mismatch for george as I explained yesterday he would be destroyed tom showed that

and cus never said that quote why is that hard to bealive its a dumb myth that needs to die

[Willow The Wisp]

For me, the most beguiling part of this whole question is; what the hell could moneytheman be editing every time he posts?????

[JAB5239]

For me, the most beguiling part of this whole question is; what the hell could moneytheman be editing every time he posts?????

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Now that is funny!!!!

[JAB5239]

The prevailing wisdom of Cus is that there were very few fighters throughout history who could go toe-to-toe with Foreman, and he is correct. Not too many fighters are going to outslug him, though Lyle did give it the old college try. With Tyson, he wasn't just a crude brawler, he had speed, head movement and could fight on the inside. I think 90's Tyson would have stopped George on his feet. Ref steps in and ends the brutality. Not to say old George wouldn't have landed a few good licks on Mike, but not enough to save the day. Tyson certainly would not have pulled a hit and run job the way Morrison did.

I agree with this 100%. George may have had a shot at upsetting post prison Tyson, but it is still unlikely.

[Ascended]

I agree with this 100%. George may have had a shot at upsetting post prison Tyson, but it is still unlikely.

Well why is it ron almost ended him and would have if he took more breaks to not get hit your a idiot like always

I can name mutiple people who would destroy george by coming onto him and landed first and faster then he can land on them I wont name them cause 1 name was already said who would destroy his young ver

[BKM-]

Swarming fighters, guys who go down low to avoid shots(and then counter)? It's simply not gonna happen, it plays right into Foreman's strengths.

For one, when they duck, Foreman puts his hands on their shoulders to control them. He loved doing this and swarmers literally invite him to do it. He would put them off balance every second they tried to bob and weave by either holding or worse: something he got away with which was pushing. Foreman was the strongest grappler in boxing history. An immovable object, an expert at leverage.

Second, since they choose that range it plays right into Foreman's best weapon which is his long, stiffening left jab. Second aspect that allows him to control them.

Third is the uppercut, posibly Foreman's best punch. The swarmer's being controlled by Foreman's grappling and jab and he's gonna eat the same things Frazier ate. Uppercuts. Beginning of the end.

I mean what else makes this style a disaster to face Foreman? Perhaps the fact that they are bobbing and weaving upwards into deadly oncoming traffic which is traveling down into their faces, making the impact even harder?

Everything is wrong here, everything. The only way this would work is they ducked underneath Foreman's uppercuts and took him down with a double leg but this isn't MMA is it? Foreman would have been great at that too btw.

[JAB5239]

Well why is it ron almost ended him and would have if he took more breaks to not get hit your a idiot like always

I can name mutiple people who would destroy george by coming onto him and landed first and faster then he can land on them I wont name them cause 1 name was already said who would destroy his young ver

whatever you say!!