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What hits harder, a gloved fist or a bare one?
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Originally posted by boxkickboxmma View PostHa yeah. Hey last night Kimbo had his debut boxing match. One uppercut and his opponent had to be carried off the ring in a stretcher. He's always a fun guy to watch, hopefully he has some entertaining boxing matches before he hangs it up.
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Originally posted by McGoorty View PostI'm no medical expert but breaks like that aren't helpful, while the actual fracture usually heals up at that point much re-inforced, it wont mean the part next to it wont snap. No I think what we're dealing with here is not a few fractures over time but many many many times. If someone snapped their bones too seriously at an early stage of their training and couldn't be properly re-set, their days as fighter would be over before they had begun. However Kim told me that with his training the breaks were minor and they only let the hands heal to a point not quite healed before you start hitting hard things again, over time that forces not just the bones but all the surrounding tissue to harden to an amazing extent, and this applies to the entire body (except for your willies gentlemen, I don't recommend goin that far with your training), not just the Knuckles. That is what My friend Marchegiano is talking about when he writes about the Spartans standing toe to toe punching each other for hours upon hours every day from the age of 7 or eight till death. but that was nothing to a Spartan. He began his training minutes after birth, The new-born was immediately taken from his mother and left exposed for the whole night outside in a land teeming with wolves, (summer or winter).......................................... The Spartans would then go out at first light to see if baby was alive, if the baby was dead,,,.,,.... so be it,.... in the mind of a Spartan, anything that was weak enough to die from such a minor thing as exposure to snow and wolves, didn't have a right to life.... imagine what the greens would say to that !!!!!,................. and the Spartan, didn't read books, in fact the only activity a Spartan knew was WAR,,,, He was a full time soldier until he finally dropped dead,,,,,,,,. and he spent every night of his life in the barracks,......................................... .................................................. ................. ...................... Anybody wanna become a Spartan ?????????..... any takers ??
Bit worried about my hand now, never had any problems before then all since X mas the break the fracture and damaged ligaments now......
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THIS IS SPARTA!!!
count me out....
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Originally posted by The Surgeon View PostCheers pal, very helpful
Bit worried about my hand now, never had any problems before then all since X mas the break the fracture and damaged ligaments now......
PS.
THIS IS SPARTA!!!
count me out....
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When I'm hit with a gloved fist, I can physically feel my brain rattling around inside my skull.
When I'm hit with a bare fist, I can feel one knuckle on my skin but more pain.
I'd much sooner be hit with a bare fist, it feels harder but the gloved hits feel so much heavier and far more disturbing.Last edited by coghaugen; 08-15-2011, 09:52 PM.
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Originally posted by coghaugen View PostWhen I'm hit with a gloved fist, I can physically feel my brain rattling around inside my skull.
When I'm hit with a bare fist, I can feel one knuckle on my skin but more pain.
I'd much sooner be hit with a bare fist, it feels harder but the gloved hits feel so much heavier and far more disturbing.
I've also experienced both and felt the same way as you until a few years ago when I had an MMA fight. This is why the old timers should be revered for their toughness. 4oz MMA gloved feel like a combination of both glove and fist. They hurt, and they rattle your brain. Imagine guys from bye gone era's who were far more skilled fighting 20 rounds and more in 4oz gloves? Thats insane!
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Originally posted by coghaugen View PostWhen I'm hit with a gloved fist, I can physically feel my brain rattling around inside my skull.
When I'm hit with a bare fist, I can feel one knuckle on my skin but more pain.
I'd much sooner be hit with a bare fist, it feels harder but the gloved hits feel so much heavier and far more disturbing.
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Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post
I've also experienced both and felt the same way as you until a few years ago when I had an MMA fight. This is why the old timers should be revered for their toughness. 4oz MMA gloved feel like a combination of both glove and fist. They hurt, and they rattle your brain. Imagine guys from bye gone era's who were far more skilled fighting 20 rounds and more in 4oz gloves? Thats insane!
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look what happened to Billy Collins Jr when he fought someone without proper gloves. i know this example has nothing to do with force (which would remain constant between gloves/no gloves), but a fighter with no gloves would inflict much more concussive damage than to one with gloves.
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Originally posted by winky's right View Postlook what happened to Billy Collins Jr when he fought someone without proper gloves. i know this example has nothing to do with force (which would remain constant between gloves/no gloves), but a fighter with no gloves would inflict much more concussive damage than to one with gloves.
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