Greatest Mexican Fighters

[Toney Loc]

In accomplishments; definitely. IMO

I also think Morales and Barrera are as skilled as Marquez, if not more.

I agree with this. I don't see how Marquez is more skilled than Barrera or Morales. Especially Barrera.

[The Surgeon]

I agree with this. I don't see how Marquez is more skilled than Barrera or Morales. Especially Barrera.

I think that one watch of their classic fight (that i rate every bit as highly as Barrera vs Morales) shows their skill level is at least equal

[IronDanHamza]

Hey Dan Where would u rate them - the three Amigo's that is or the two, MAB and Morales if u prefer?

Morales and Barrera are both ATG's and close in terms of greatness but I think Morales is greater.

And Marquez I'm not sure I would consider an ATG as it stands.

[Steak]

I think that one watch of their classic fight (that i rate every bit as highly as Barrera vs Morales) shows their skill level is at least equal

I disagree. Barrera had much more wear and tear at that point than Marquez. Doesnt anyone remember his close outing against Juarez? Barrera still had plenty of skill and a decent amount of speed against Marquez, but his power had definitely fallen, his punches didnt have as much weight. Not to mention that his stamina failed him late too, and at his best Barrera was an excellent late round fighter.

If the Barrera from the third Morales fight was pitted against Marquez that night, I have no doubt whatsoever that Marquez would have clearly been beaten. That Barrera had the speed and skill of the Barrera from MAB-Maquez, but also had real weight and snap to his punches. As it is you could have had Barrera winning with his robbed knockdown, he beat the hell out of Marquez's face(although he definitely did give up a number of late rounds).

[The Surgeon]

I disagree. Barrera had much more wear and tear at that point than Marquez. Doesnt anyone remember his close outing against Juarez? Barrera still had plenty of skill and a decent amount of speed against Marquez, but his power had definitely fallen, his punches didnt have as much weight. Not to mention that his stamina failed him late too, and at his best Barrera was an excellent late round fighter.

If the Barrera from the third Morales fight was pitted against Marquez that night, I have no doubt whatsoever that Marquez would have clearly been beaten. That Barrera had the speed and skill of the Barrera from MAB-Maquez, but also had real weight and snap to his punches. As it is you could have had Barrera winning with his robbed knockdown, he beat the hell out of Marquez's face(although he definitely did give up a number of late rounds).

I do remember his close one with Juarez (how grim was that on Rocky!) but i also remember him coming back to outclass him, Barrera has always had off nights throughout his career. Marco might not have been in his physical prime but his technique was far better than when he was a young tiger ****ing away on a guys bodys, u admit urself he still had his speed and skill which is what we are debating - Was Marquez as skilled? And i feel their fight proves he was.

As for the score i gave it to Juan Manuel by a point, 114-113 but almost every round was fiercely contested and Barrera fought brilliantly. I scored round seven 9-8 in favour of JMM, he dominated the round bigtime but then he got dropped so in my eyes that makes it 9-9. Unfortunately Barrera then Blatantly hits JMM when he is down and is rightly docked a point making it 9-8 in Marquez's favour as i gave credit to Barrera for the KD as it was clearly legit - Nady dropped the ball there

[LeG00N]

I disagree. Barrera had much more wear and tear at that point than Marquez. Doesnt anyone remember his close outing against Juarez? Barrera still had plenty of skill and a decent amount of speed against Marquez, but his power had definitely fallen, his punches didnt have as much weight. Not to mention that his stamina failed him late too, and at his best Barrera was an excellent late round fighter.

If the Barrera from the third Morales fight was pitted against Marquez that night, I have no doubt whatsoever that Marquez would have clearly been beaten. That Barrera had the speed and skill of the Barrera from MAB-Maquez, but also had real weight and snap to his punches. As it is you could have had Barrera winning with his robbed knockdown, he beat the hell out of Marquez's face(although he definitely did give up a number of late rounds).

JMM wasn't in his prime either and it can't be an age debate , not when JMM is older

in that case put the JMM that fought Pacquiao the first time around... of course Barrera would be one weightclass above. I mean in regards to prime

and I'm certain the result would be the same a long hard fought technical match that JMM would win

[jabsRstiff]

Historically, it's hard for me to rate one above the other when it comes to MAB, Morales, and JMM.


But, take them all in their primes and match 'em up head-to-head.....and I have Barrera beating both of them.

[The Surgeon]

Historically, it's hard for me to rate one above the other when it comes to MAB, Morales, and JMM.


But, take them all in their primes and match 'em up head-to-head.....and I have Barrera beating both of them.

JabsR Would they all make ur top 10 if they retired today and if so what ranks?

[New England]

I agree with this. I don't see how Marquez is more skilled than Barrera or Morales. Especially Barrera.

did you see them fight?

[jabsRstiff]

JabsR Would they all make ur top 10 if they retired today and if so what ranks?

Top 10 in Mexican boxing history? Maybe....they'd come in at 9th and beyond.

I believe they've all had better careers than guys like Chiquita, Palomino, and Pipino.

My rankings-

1.Chavez
2.Olivares
3.Sanchez
4.Zarate
5.Lopez
6.Canto
7.Manuel Ortiz
8.Saldivar