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  • CarlosG815
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    #41
    Joe Calzaghe is one of biggest frauds in the history of boxing.

    He spent a career of fighting European bums in his backyard. He stepped up to fight Bernard Hopkins when Hopkins was 43 years old, and Bernard put him on his ass in the first round, outboxed, counterpunched, and landed the bigger and more effective shots. Joe Calzaghe lost a unanimous decision that night but Bernard was robbed.

    He then fought a Roy Jones who isn't even relevant to the sport anymore. The same Roy Jones that was KO'd in one round vs Danny Green and KO'd brutally by Lebedev is the same Roy Jones that took Calzaghe to war for 12 rounds.

    Calzaghe is truly a joke and a fraud and history will remember him for exactly what he is. Outside of Britain, Calzaghe isn't held in any type of positive regard and for good reason.

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    • The Surgeon
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      #42
      Originally posted by steeluv
      Manfredo is the weakest opponent he had in years why even mention that one, I think because he is american and on a tv show someone is overrating. Bika and Veit were a class above that bum, beating Manfredo aint getting no points
      That Manfredo stoppage was SHOCKING too along with some others that have inflated his KO %

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      • CarlosG815
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        #43
        Originally posted by The Surgeon
        That Manfredo stoppage was SHOCKING too along with some others that have inflated his KO %
        Many of his stoppages were just awful. Calzaghe was a well managed pampered baby who knew all the right people who could pad his record to help sell fights. A fighter with his unappealing, boring style could never sell a fight, hence the reason why some of his fights were stopped without him even landing a punch - literally. Joe Calzaghe had fights stopped in his favor WITHOUT LANDING A PUNCH.

        There is video evidence of this fraud and it's a stain on boxing just like Calzaghe - a crap stain on the underpants of boxing.

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        • The Surgeon
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          #44
          Originally posted by CarlosG815
          There is video evidence of this fraud and it's a stain on boxing just like Calzaghe - a crap stain on the underpants of boxing.
          Lol I wish i could green u Carlos!

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          • StarshipTrooper
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            #45
            I personally think Fraud Gayweather is the human skidmark on boxing's tighty whities but that's just me :chuckle9:

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            • Welsh Jon
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              #46
              Originally posted by The Surgeon
              He really did slap the ***** outta Lacy!

              He fought the fight of his life that night but it would have been even more impressive if he had managed to KO Jeff after hitting him with over 2.5 million shots

              He showed flaws against a solid Kessler but he showed one of his best qualitys too - adaptability. The guy was very good, u dont beat a Mikkel Kessler if ur not very good. However i really think he is Way over rated and is so shockingly amaturish at times like for example that gif that was going about of him windmilling and missing at Hopkins
              I agree with him being amateurish, for all my years of Calzaghe fandom it made me sick to the stomach to watch his clowning against RJJ. Who did he think he was impressing? He was beating up the broken shell of a once great fighter, his showboating just made him look a ****.

              The problem with Calzaghe is most people seem to rate him one of 2 ways. They either think he's an all time great cos he retired undefeated, or they think he's a massive fraud. The truth is somewhere in between, he was a good fighter who dominated a weak division, who really should have pushed himself harder.

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              • Welsh Jon
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                #47
                Originally posted by The Surgeon
                That Manfredo stoppage was SHOCKING too along with some others that have inflated his KO %
                Manfredo was out of his depth, if the ref had stopped it during the National anthems it would have been a fair call.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Welsh Jon
                  I agree with him being amateurish, for all my years of Calzaghe fandom it made me sick to the stomach to watch his clowning against RJJ. Who did he think he was impressing? He was beating up the broken shell of a once great fighter, his showboating just made him look a ****.

                  The problem with Calzaghe is most people seem to rate him one of 2 ways. They either think he's an all time great cos he retired undefeated, or they think he's a massive fraud. The truth is somewhere in between, he was a good fighter who dominated a weak division, who really should have pushed himself harder.
                  A fair asessment. The biggest reason you get people thinking he's a fraud, though, is because of guys like JoeyZags who run around proclaiming him to be the p4p GOAT.

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                  • IronDanHamza
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                    #49
                    Like I said, Calzaghe was a capable fighter. He showed that when he stepped up in his competition (which wasn't often)

                    Lacy and Kessler were good wins and the way he beat them was very good. But, they are good wins at best. Nothing to really shout about in all honesty.

                    His best win is Kessler who is a good fighter but far from a great fighter.

                    But, that, along with Hopkins, is all he really has to his name.

                    Simply cannot see how that is an all time great fighter.

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                    • The Surgeon
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Welsh Jon
                      Manfredo was out of his depth, if the ref had stopped it during the National anthems it would have been a fair call.
                      Lol iv gotta spread the green or id be hitting u up for this!


                      Also the last post before this was a fair assesment, and i respect that. Its the fanboys who claim he is the GOAT ect that do him no favours really, they turn off everybody else to him

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