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  • #41
    my top 10 from 1990 to present
    1. Ricardo Lopez
    2. Mayweather Jr
    3. Hopkins
    4. Whitaker
    5. Roy Jones
    6. Chavez
    7. Pacman
    8. Trinidad
    9. DeLahoya
    10. JMM

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    • #42
      Originally posted by RubenSonny View Post
      The fight was at 145, thats 5 pounds above his normal weight at the time, and he was an elite prime fighter (without a doubt better than Vasquez) and Pea wasn't a big welterweight either (nor did he start his career there). Its arguably the best win of the last 21 years. I'll be sure to red k you when I can.

      Like I said Chavez did nothing above 140 but then against you actually think
      Buddy Mcgirt>Mark Johnson
      Julio Cesar Vasquez>Isreal Vasquez
      Pineda>Tim Austin

      So yeah this is really pointless

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      • #43
        Originally posted by SCtrojansbaby View Post
        Like I said Chavez did nothing above 140 but then against you actually think
        Buddy Mcgirt>Mark Johnson
        Julio Cesar Vasquez>Isreal Vasquez
        Pineda>Tim Austin

        So yeah this is really pointless
        Johnson did nothing at full bantamweight, no?

        Well I'd say the Mcgirt win was a bit better than Johnson win.

        JCV is clearly better than Vasquez win.

        I'd say the Austin win was better than the Pineda win though, not by much though.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by RubenSonny View Post
          Johnson did nothing at full bantamweight, no?

          Well I'd say the Mcgirt win was a bit better than Johnson win.

          JCV is clearly better than Vasquez win.

          I'd say the Austin win was better than the Pineda win though, not by much though.
          LOL I guess we just have vastly different opinions about these fighters and wins.

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          • #45
            I like this topic since its in my wheelhouse.....but I don't have my research materials here at work.... gonna catch a lot of shi t for #1

            1) Bernard Hopkins (based on longevity/accomplishment/should have been in ring top 10 pfp for 1999-2009 and arguably last year))
            2) Roy Jones Jr (speaks for itself except his flame out and shameful return)
            3) Pernell Whitaker (already been discussed)
            4) Manny Pacquaio (not impressed with recent run)
            5) FLoyd Mayweather Jr
            6) MArco ANtonio Barrera
            7) Lennox Lewis
            8) Juan Manuel Marquez
            9) Ricardo Lopez (never moved up for two HUGE potential showdowns)
            10) Tito Trinidad

            I can never get past the whole Zahir Raheem thing with EM. I LOVE Toney, but he basically took a sabbatical from 99-the Jirov fight to me. HOlyfield's entire cruiser resume is excluded b/c of the timeframe so that really knocks him down to me. JoCal should be close as well, but I can't get over all those wasted years fighting the Kabary Salim's of the world. And comp level means a lot to me (I know that jeopardizes my lennox pick)

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            • #46
              *Throws **** at Walt*

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              • #47
                Originally posted by RubenSonny View Post
                *Throws **** at Walt*
                There's absolutely no personal bias at the top of my list. (only at the top, for reals).

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                • #48
                  I am beating a dead horse but it still amazes me that anyone could have Pernell that high.

                  I think you people just see someone else put him high so everybody else does it to because no one can honestly think wins over Buddy Mcgirt x2 and Julio Cesar Vasquez are greater then say Barrera's wins against Morales x2 Hamed Tapia Ayala Mckinney

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by SCtrojansbaby View Post
                    I am beating a dead horse but it still amazes me that anyone could have Pernell that high.

                    I think you people just see someone else put him high so everybody else does it to because no one can honestly think wins over Buddy Mcgirt x2 and Julio Cesar Vasquez are greater then say Barrera's wins against Morales x2 Hamed Tapia Ayala Mckinney
                    Pernell Whitaker:

                    Ring Magazine's p4p #1 in 1993,1994,1995
                    Ring Magazine's p4p #2 in 1990,1991,1992
                    Ring Magazine's p4p #3 in 1996
                    Ring Magazine's Lightweight #1 in 1990
                    Ring Magazine's Junior-Welterweight #2 in 1991,1992
                    Ring Magazine's Welterweight #1 in 1993,1994,1995,1996

                    Any more questions about Sweet Pea?

                    Poet

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by jjbj2 View Post
                      1). Manny Pacquiao - Proud el *******o of the BoxingScene forum.

                      2). Oscar De La Hoya - Guy made boxing popular to women. Latinas can't stop talking about Oscar back in the days especially about how good looking he was. He made me follow boxing when I was a teenager. He was the PPV King along with Mike Tyson.

                      3). Roy Jones Jr. - He continued the popularity of boxing within the black community. Undefeated and barely had a boring fight during his prime.

                      4). Prince Naseem Hamed - Guy tried to do something different in boxing especially with his theatrical entrance. He made boxing exciting before the fight even begins.

                      5). Mike Tyson - the Heavyweight champ who instilled fear and kept boxing in the newspapers. Guy was PPV King, so even I watched his fights.

                      6). Erik Morales - the man who challenged every tough fighter in his division. A true proud Mexican fighter. And I should put Julio Cesar Chavez Sr. here too. He was very popular during the 1990s then Oscar beat him - torch passed.

                      7). Tito Trinidad - gave Puerto Ricans in New York City in the 1990s something to brag about. I still hear them in my ears from subway to school - it was all about Tito Trinidad when it came to boxing. Posters of Trinidad vs De La Hoya were everywhere in New York City inside the subway station, the bus, and billboards.

                      8). Arturo Gatti/Mikey Ward - these two fought so hard that people still talk about them especially within the Caucasian boxing fan communities.

                      9). Sugar Shane Mosley - became a certified boxing celebrity when he beat Oscar De La Hoya. Then his steroid use became an infamous topic because it was everywhere from newspapers to the media. Oscar's face looked bright red when he said something along the lines of "forget about it." HA!

                      10). As a ******* - I put Floyd Mayweather Jr. here in the bottom since I never heard of him back in the 1990s and early 2000s. I only started learning his name and record in 2007 when people started writing about Oscar De La Hoya should fight Floyd Mayweather Jr. Seriously, I never heard of him back then.

                      This list was made based on popularity not skills or what have you. I was a casual boxing fan back in the 1990s and early 2000s. I never even heard of Pernell Whitaker in all honesty until he fought Oscar De La Hoya. Oscar made me follow boxing a little bit. I was never interested in boxing other than who Oscar was going to fight next.

                      I became a ******* because the guy just demolishes everyone he faces or makes a fight in every fight he is in. His first fight with Erik Morales made me a fan of both boxers. When I watch the Oscar De La Hoya vs Manny Pacquiao - to me it feels like a passing of the torch because as an example instead of me following Oscar now I follow Pacquiao.

                      And if you grew up in New York City then some of you remember that commercial Oscar de la Hoya did for Puerto Rico the "Mi Casa, Su Casa" commercial. As a casual fan back then, for a moment I thought Oscar was Puerto Rican because of how many times it was played on air then I remembered he was a Mexican-American U.S. Olympic gold medalist.
                      Nice list. I'm not sure I agree with some of your selections but it's good to see people throwing names (and the reasons for such) forward which fall outside the usual bunch of tired old legends.

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