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  • Originally posted by fitefanSHO View Post
    1. Ricardo Lopez
    2. Bernard Hopkins
    3. Evander Holyfield
    4. Manny Pacquiao
    5. Floyd Mayweather
    6. Roy Jones
    7. Joe Calzaghe
    8. Pernell Whitaker
    9. Lennox Lewis
    10. Terry Norris

    Tough list to make, subject to change.
    ^^^
    This man knows what he's talking about.

    Anyone who doesn't have Ricardo Lopez in the top 5 of the last 30 years has likely never even seen him fight.

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    • Originally posted by SBleeder View Post
      ^^^
      This man knows what he's talking about.

      Anyone who doesn't have Ricardo Lopez in the top 5 of the last 30 years has likely never even seen him fight.
      finito at #1 is a little farfetched IMO.......he was a great fighter for sure, but he has a little case of the what if's..

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      • I'm not good at making lists and ranking and all that, but the one thing I can say is Pernell Whitaker #1!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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        • Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
          Oscar wasn't a catchweight but he was dead at 147 so your point still remains.

          That's a valid point about Pea but I would still personally have him #2 to Roy Jones.

          I haven't devised a list for this time frame but I have no doubt Roy Jones would be #1 solely on what he did in the 90's.
          It's unmatched, IMO. He was THE fighter of the 90's.
          Yeah and thata a big problem for me too that he fought Oscar at 147 but then has to make Cotto drop an extra 2 pounds which does matter since Cotto moved up from 140 because he couldn't hold the weight good, so putting closer towards that I think puts an effect on him. Pac might have still won but that still presents a problem.

          I just think it's so amazing Pernell goes up to 154, at that weight, and beats the best guy there. While Roy Jones had to beat Ruiz & Pac had to pick on a shot Margarito who couldn't even put away a scrub in mexico, who was probably plastering too. Not to mention he didn't do it at 154.

          Though I think Roy's win over James Toney is probably the best win of the 90's, I think Pernell fought the toughest opposition on the daily basis but I don't have a problem with either guy being #1 because they both pretty much were the 90's although Roy Jones WAS boxing back in the late 90's.

          I think The Hopkins win though is kind of like Jack Johnsons win over Sam Langford. I think except Hopkins wasn't outweigh'd by much, but similar in the fact Hopkins was still green. I think too this day Hopkins finally hit his prime 2-3 years after. He got better with age although I would still say it's a B level win for Roy.

          Originally posted by strykr619 View Post
          To discount 3 of Pacquiao's fight's because of a catchweight is bs considering Pacquaio is fighting outside of his true weight class (you know fighters don't fight at their actual weight).

          I mean if we want to do that then the SRL-Hagler fight was bs then because it was at a catchweight.
          The Oscar win will never be good regardless, I mean it was a good win, but it's not some world class level win.

          What really chaps my ass is how come he fought Oscar at 147 but not Cotto?
          That's fishy.

          Margarito was like a C level win because the man was shot. PERIOD.

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          • Originally posted by RubenSonny View Post
            You give Marquez a lot of credit for beating Too Sharp at bantam in which he did nothing so stfu...
            I give Marquez the proper amount of credit as do I Whitaker the difference is Marquez actually beat Johnson Chavez is a fantasy win.

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            • In no particular order here are the names that pop into my head:

              Clear Cut:
              Whitaker
              B-Hop
              Jones Jr.
              Mayweather
              Pacquaio

              Next 5:
              MAB
              Holyfield
              Mosley
              Morales
              JMM

              Man it gets really tough having to pick after the obvious 5...

              As good as Lopez was his resume is much weaker than the rest of the guys on listed. On my grading rubric it's better to try fight the best and risk a loss than fight sub-par competition and roll like Lopez did.

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              • RJJ, PBF, Manny, Hopkins, PW, Toney.... gets tough after. Maybe , Oscar, MAB, Erik Morales, Joe Calzaghe, Lewis

                It's hard for HW to top such lists, they are seldom the most skilled.

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                • B-Hop should be #1.

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                  • Originally posted by Natedatpkid View Post
                    B-Hop should be #1.
                    I think Jones, Whitaker and Manny are all above him.

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