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  • #41
    Originally posted by SCtrojansbaby View Post
    Hopkins beats any tall lanky fighter like Foster. Hopkins would bury his head in to Foster chest and pound away on the inside. Fosters only hope would be to catch him coming in but even then I don't thing he could hurt Hopkins enough to deter him.
    What exactly are you basing this on? Foster isn't Antonio Tarver or Pascal and Bhop was past his best at 175.

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    • #42
      What the heck makes you people think B-Hop was past his prime at light heavy? He got 3 of his top 5 wins their. Oh and taller fighters are almost always at a disadvantage on the inside that is common knowledge most generally just hold. B-hop is special in that he is pretty tall yet still a superb inside fighter. Show me a fight where Foster shows good skills on the inside and I will reconsider

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      • #43
        Originally posted by SCtrojansbaby View Post
        What the heck makes you people think B-Hop was past his prime at light heavy? He got 3 of his top 5 wins their. Oh and taller fighters are almost always at a disadvantage on the inside that is common knowledge most generally just hold. B-hop is special in that he is pretty tall yet still a superb inside fighter. Show me a fight where Foster shows good skills on the inside and I will reconsider

        Here's a better idea, show me a fight where Hopkins fought one of the best light heavies in history and controlled the inside. The fact is he would be at physical disadvantages against a guy considered one of, if not the hardest punch in the history of the division. And if you think Hopkins is and was prime at 175, you're crazy. The Calzaghe fight proved this.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post

          Here's a better idea, show me a fight where Hopkins fought one of the best light heavies in history and controlled the inside. The fact is he would be at physical disadvantages against a guy considered one of, if not the hardest punch in the history of the division. And if you think Hopkins is and was prime at 175, you're crazy. The Calzaghe fight proved this.
          Hopkins controls the inside against everyone he would have a field day against a tall guy.

          The Calzaghe fight proved what? Go watch the Tarver, Pavlik and Winky, if your getting 3 of your top 5 wins you aint past your prime its that simple. Fighter reinvent themselves

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          • #45
            Originally posted by SCtrojansbaby View Post
            Hopkins controls the inside against everyone he would have a field day against a tall guy.

            The Calzaghe fight proved what? Go watch the Tarver, Pavlik and Winky, if your getting 3 of your top 5 wins you aint past your prime its that simple. Fighter reinvent themselves

            The question is, who are Tarver, Pavlik or Winky in the pantheon of great light heavyweights? Hell, who is Calzaghe? Hopkins is great and his longevity amazing, but if you think he hasn't lost a step You're only fooling yourself. So again I'll ask, when has Hopkins proved he could get inside a tall, rangy all time great light heavyweight who could take your head off with one punch. And please come with something better than Tarver, Pavlik and Winky my friend.

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            • #46
              Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post

              The question is, who are Tarver, Pavlik or Winky in the pantheon of great light heavyweights? Hell, who is Calzaghe? Hopkins is great and his longevity amazing, but if you think he hasn't lost a step You're only fooling yourself. So again I'll ask, when has Hopkins proved he could get inside a tall, rangy all time great light heavyweight who could take your head off with one punch. And please come with something better than Tarver, Pavlik and Winky my friend.

              Why do you keep asking that? Its a fantasy fight the whole point is that it will never happen and you can only guess. Hopkins got inside against everybody if he choose to fight there. Foster let far lesser fighters like Ernie Terrell get inside on him no reason to think Hopkins wouldn't as well. Fosters only chance would to catch Hopkins coming in early in the fight. I think Hopkins has chin to take anything Foster could throw and by the middle rounds Foster would be worn out.

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              • #47
                Originally posted by SCtrojansbaby View Post
                Why do you keep asking that? Its a fantasy fight the whole point is that it will never happen and you can only guess. Hopkins got inside against everybody if he choose to fight there. Foster let far lesser fighters like Ernie Terrell get inside on him no reason to think Hopkins wouldn't as well. Fosters only chance would to catch Hopkins coming in early in the fight. I think Hopkins has chin to take anything Foster could throw and by the middle rounds Foster would be worn out.

                The Terrell-Foster fight was contested from long rage for the vast majority of the fight. When they are on the inside Terrell was using his size to lean on Foster and wear the smaller guy down. Hopkins wouldn't have that luxury.

                And how do you figure Foster would be the one worn out? He was a 15 round fighter and would be prime, where as Bhop wouldn't be. He certainly wasn't going full throttle against the best fighter he faced at 175, Calzaghe.

                As far as Hops chin goes....**** Tiger is considered to have one of the best chins in history and Foster waxed him with a single left hook. The possibility he could do it to pst prime Hopkins is very good in my opinion.

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post

                  The Terrell-Foster fight was contested from long rage for the vast majority of the fight. When they are on the inside Terrell was using his size to lean on Foster and wear the smaller guy down. Hopkins wouldn't have that luxury.

                  And how do you figure Foster would be the one worn out? He was a 15 round fighter and would be prime, where as Bhop wouldn't be. He certainly wasn't going full throttle against the best fighter he faced at 175, Calzaghe.

                  As far as Hops chin goes....**** Tiger is considered to have one of the best chins in history and Foster waxed him with a single left hook. The possibility he could do it to pst prime Hopkins is very good in my opinion.
                  In fairness, **** Tiger was utterly dwarfed by Foster, who had a monsterous size advantage.

                  Not that it always mattered for **** Tiger, who was an exceptional fighter. But, although he had battled size disadavantages before, he had never seen one in the way of a much stronger, freakishly powerful Bob Foster. And it showed to be too much for him.

                  I don't see him taking Hopkins head off in 4 rounds like he did to Tiger. But, I could definitely see a knockout.

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post

                    The Terrell-Foster fight was contested from long rage for the vast majority of the fight. When they are on the inside Terrell was using his size to lean on Foster and wear the smaller guy down. Hopkins wouldn't have that luxury.

                    And how do you figure Foster would be the one worn out? He was a 15 round fighter and would be prime, where as Bhop wouldn't be. He certainly wasn't going full throttle against the best fighter he faced at 175, Calzaghe.

                    As far as Hops chin goes....**** Tiger is considered to have one of the best chins in history and Foster waxed him with a single left hook. The possibility he could do it to pst prime Hopkins is very good in my opinion.
                    Watch the fight again the last 3 rounds Terrell is staying close with little resistance from Foster. No reason a far more clever B-Hop couldn't do the same and B-Hop wouldn't lean he would land punches like he always does on the inside.

                    How many times do i have to say it? Hopkins wasn't past his prime at 175 until maybe the Roy Jones fight. B-Hop had a slightly off night against Calzaghe and still won the fight.

                    Oh and lol Calzaghe is the worst fighter out of Winky Tarver and Pavlik.

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                    • #50
                      Charles is the only guy i would actually favour-Tunney and Spinks are 50/50s for me

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