Originally posted by SCtrojansbaby
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Who would you pick over Bob Foster at 175?
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What the heck makes you people think B-Hop was past his prime at light heavy? He got 3 of his top 5 wins their. Oh and taller fighters are almost always at a disadvantage on the inside that is common knowledge most generally just hold. B-hop is special in that he is pretty tall yet still a superb inside fighter. Show me a fight where Foster shows good skills on the inside and I will reconsider
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Originally posted by SCtrojansbaby View PostWhat the heck makes you people think B-Hop was past his prime at light heavy? He got 3 of his top 5 wins their. Oh and taller fighters are almost always at a disadvantage on the inside that is common knowledge most generally just hold. B-hop is special in that he is pretty tall yet still a superb inside fighter. Show me a fight where Foster shows good skills on the inside and I will reconsider
Here's a better idea, show me a fight where Hopkins fought one of the best light heavies in history and controlled the inside. The fact is he would be at physical disadvantages against a guy considered one of, if not the hardest punch in the history of the division. And if you think Hopkins is and was prime at 175, you're crazy. The Calzaghe fight proved this.
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Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post
Here's a better idea, show me a fight where Hopkins fought one of the best light heavies in history and controlled the inside. The fact is he would be at physical disadvantages against a guy considered one of, if not the hardest punch in the history of the division. And if you think Hopkins is and was prime at 175, you're crazy. The Calzaghe fight proved this.
The Calzaghe fight proved what? Go watch the Tarver, Pavlik and Winky, if your getting 3 of your top 5 wins you aint past your prime its that simple. Fighter reinvent themselves
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Originally posted by SCtrojansbaby View PostHopkins controls the inside against everyone he would have a field day against a tall guy.
The Calzaghe fight proved what? Go watch the Tarver, Pavlik and Winky, if your getting 3 of your top 5 wins you aint past your prime its that simple. Fighter reinvent themselves
The question is, who are Tarver, Pavlik or Winky in the pantheon of great light heavyweights? Hell, who is Calzaghe? Hopkins is great and his longevity amazing, but if you think he hasn't lost a step You're only fooling yourself. So again I'll ask, when has Hopkins proved he could get inside a tall, rangy all time great light heavyweight who could take your head off with one punch. And please come with something better than Tarver, Pavlik and Winky my friend.
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Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post
The question is, who are Tarver, Pavlik or Winky in the pantheon of great light heavyweights? Hell, who is Calzaghe? Hopkins is great and his longevity amazing, but if you think he hasn't lost a step You're only fooling yourself. So again I'll ask, when has Hopkins proved he could get inside a tall, rangy all time great light heavyweight who could take your head off with one punch. And please come with something better than Tarver, Pavlik and Winky my friend.
Why do you keep asking that? Its a fantasy fight the whole point is that it will never happen and you can only guess. Hopkins got inside against everybody if he choose to fight there. Foster let far lesser fighters like Ernie Terrell get inside on him no reason to think Hopkins wouldn't as well. Fosters only chance would to catch Hopkins coming in early in the fight. I think Hopkins has chin to take anything Foster could throw and by the middle rounds Foster would be worn out.
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Originally posted by SCtrojansbaby View PostWhy do you keep asking that? Its a fantasy fight the whole point is that it will never happen and you can only guess. Hopkins got inside against everybody if he choose to fight there. Foster let far lesser fighters like Ernie Terrell get inside on him no reason to think Hopkins wouldn't as well. Fosters only chance would to catch Hopkins coming in early in the fight. I think Hopkins has chin to take anything Foster could throw and by the middle rounds Foster would be worn out.
The Terrell-Foster fight was contested from long rage for the vast majority of the fight. When they are on the inside Terrell was using his size to lean on Foster and wear the smaller guy down. Hopkins wouldn't have that luxury.
And how do you figure Foster would be the one worn out? He was a 15 round fighter and would be prime, where as Bhop wouldn't be. He certainly wasn't going full throttle against the best fighter he faced at 175, Calzaghe.
As far as Hops chin goes....**** Tiger is considered to have one of the best chins in history and Foster waxed him with a single left hook. The possibility he could do it to pst prime Hopkins is very good in my opinion.
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Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post
The Terrell-Foster fight was contested from long rage for the vast majority of the fight. When they are on the inside Terrell was using his size to lean on Foster and wear the smaller guy down. Hopkins wouldn't have that luxury.
And how do you figure Foster would be the one worn out? He was a 15 round fighter and would be prime, where as Bhop wouldn't be. He certainly wasn't going full throttle against the best fighter he faced at 175, Calzaghe.
As far as Hops chin goes....**** Tiger is considered to have one of the best chins in history and Foster waxed him with a single left hook. The possibility he could do it to pst prime Hopkins is very good in my opinion.
Not that it always mattered for **** Tiger, who was an exceptional fighter. But, although he had battled size disadavantages before, he had never seen one in the way of a much stronger, freakishly powerful Bob Foster. And it showed to be too much for him.
I don't see him taking Hopkins head off in 4 rounds like he did to Tiger. But, I could definitely see a knockout.
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Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post
The Terrell-Foster fight was contested from long rage for the vast majority of the fight. When they are on the inside Terrell was using his size to lean on Foster and wear the smaller guy down. Hopkins wouldn't have that luxury.
And how do you figure Foster would be the one worn out? He was a 15 round fighter and would be prime, where as Bhop wouldn't be. He certainly wasn't going full throttle against the best fighter he faced at 175, Calzaghe.
As far as Hops chin goes....**** Tiger is considered to have one of the best chins in history and Foster waxed him with a single left hook. The possibility he could do it to pst prime Hopkins is very good in my opinion.
How many times do i have to say it? Hopkins wasn't past his prime at 175 until maybe the Roy Jones fight. B-Hop had a slightly off night against Calzaghe and still won the fight.
Oh and lol Calzaghe is the worst fighter out of Winky Tarver and Pavlik.
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