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  • #11
    I have Gene Tunney, Ezzard Charles, Archie Moore & Roy Jones rated my all-time best lightheavyweights, in that order. #5 is Bob Foster.

    I feel pretty strong about Tunney & Charles beating him. He has a better chance against Moore & Jones, but still, I'd make them favorites.

    I think Foster beats Spinks (#6).

    I gotta admit I never had a whole lot of awe for Gene Tunney. But after I read his biography (Tunney by Jack Canaugh) I have a new found respect for just how great a fighter this man was. Most of his career was at lightheavy, yet he lasted 20 rounds with Dempsey & beat him twice, albeit a somewhat rusty version of Dempsey.

    Personally, I doubt if Foster could have stayed 20 rounds with Jack Dempsey.
    And I can't see Doug Jones or Ernie Terrell stopping Tunney, Charles, Moore or Roy Jones, as they did Foster.
    Last edited by Terry A; 05-11-2011, 10:08 PM.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by Terry A View Post
      I have Gene Tunney, Ezzard Charles, Archie Moore & Roy Jones rated my all-time best lightheavyweights, in that order. #5 is Bob Foster.

      I feel pretty strong about Tunney & Charles beating him. He has a better chance against Moore & Jones, but still, I'd make them favorites.

      I think Foster beats Spinks (#6).

      I gotta admit I never had a whole lot of awe for Gene Tunney. But after I read his biography (Tunney by Jack Canaugh) I have a new found respect for just how great a fighter this man was. Most of his career was at lightheavy, yet he lasted 20 rounds with Dempsey & beat him twice, albeit a somewhat rusty version of Dempsey.

      Personally, I doubt if Foster could have stayed 20 rounds with Jack Dempsey.
      And I can't see Doug Jones or Ernie Terrell stopping Tunney, Charles, Moore or Roy Jones, as they did Foster.
      Charles, moore and jones get the nod alright

      Spinks ... well I reckon spinks would be a tough one, they both got destroyed at heavyweight by tyson/frazier - but I actually favour spinks, (I mean who wouldn't have lost to tyson that night?) Spinks had a way of pulling out the win -I call it mainly due to the fact that imo Spinks did a bit better at heavy than foster did (showing he can pull it out against the odds) - Spinks got the win over holmes whereas foster lost his big heavyweight fights and imo would have lost conclusively against the version of holmes that spinks got the nod over. (obviously spinks would have lost to the likes of ali/frazier too but u can only judge the guys by what they did, but really spinks losing to zory foley/ doug jones/ ernie terrell - personally i don't see it happening - not to all of them at least)

      - I find one thing about naming guys like Tunney etc is its just so hard to tell how good they really were from watching that super old footage but yeah my gut tells me if people like foley beat him then tunney takes him pretty easily-
      Last edited by Daddy T; 05-12-2011, 03:09 AM.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by David Haye View Post
        Charles, moore and jones get the nod alright

        Spinks ... well I reckon spinks would be a tough one, they both got destroyed at heavyweight by tyson/frazier - but I actually favour spinks, (I mean who wouldn't have lost to tyson that night?) Spinks had a way of pulling out the win -I call it mainly due to the fact that imo Spinks did a bit better at heavy than foster did (showing he can pull it out against the odds) - Spinks got the win over holmes whereas foster lost his big heavyweight fights and imo would have lost conclusively against the version of holmes that spinks got the nod over. (obviously spinks would have lost to the likes of ali/frazier too but u can only judge the guys by what they did, but really spinks losing to zory foley/ doug jones/ ernie terrell - personally i don't see it happening - not to all of them at least)

        - I find one thing about naming guys like Tunney etc is its just so hard to tell how good they really were from watching that super old footage but yeah my gut tells me if people like foley beat him then tunney takes him pretty easily-
        Ali, Liston and Foreman

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        • #14
          Originally posted by Barnburner View Post
          Ali, Liston and Foreman
          lol got me there

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          • #15
            Originally posted by David Haye View Post
            Charles, moore and jones get the nod alright

            Spinks ... well I reckon spinks would be a tough one, they both got destroyed at heavyweight by tyson/frazier - but I actually favour spinks, (I mean who wouldn't have lost to tyson that night?) Spinks had a way of pulling out the win -I call it mainly due to the fact that imo Spinks did a bit better at heavy than foster did (showing he can pull it out against the odds) - Spinks got the win over holmes whereas foster lost his big heavyweight fights and imo would have lost conclusively against the version of holmes that spinks got the nod over. (obviously spinks would have lost to the likes of ali/frazier too but u can only judge the guys by what they did, but really spinks losing to zory foley/ doug jones/ ernie terrell - personally i don't see it happening - not to all of them at least)

            - I find one thing about naming guys like Tunney etc is its just so hard to tell how good they really were from watching that super old footage but yeah my gut tells me if people like foley beat him then tunney takes him pretty easily-
            You make good points about Spinks, & I agree he was far more successful at heavyweight then Foster was. Close fight either way.

            As for Tunney, take a peek at his record. I't clean except for Harry Greb. He was a special champion. He dominated his era.

            That's what's so fun about these fantasy matches....taking what we all know & trying to make an educated guess on who does what. This section & the history section are my two favorite parts of this site. Lots of good reading in both.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by David Haye View Post
              Charles, moore and jones get the nod alright

              Spinks ... well I reckon spinks would be a tough one, they both got destroyed at heavyweight by tyson/frazier - but I actually favour spinks, (I mean who wouldn't have lost to tyson that night?) Spinks had a way of pulling out the win -I call it mainly due to the fact that imo Spinks did a bit better at heavy than foster did (showing he can pull it out against the odds) - Spinks got the win over holmes whereas foster lost his big heavyweight fights and imo would have lost conclusively against the version of holmes that spinks got the nod over. (obviously spinks would have lost to the likes of ali/frazier too but u can only judge the guys by what they did, but really spinks losing to zory foley/ doug jones/ ernie terrell - personally i don't see it happening - not to all of them at least)

              - I find one thing about naming guys like Tunney etc is its just so hard to tell how good they really were from watching that super old footage but yeah my gut tells me if people like foley beat him then tunney takes him pretty easily-
              Foley was easily a superior HW to Spinks and would account for him accordingly.

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              • #17
                I pick Ezzard Charles over anyone at Light Heavyweight.

                Bob Foster is a great fighter and is competitive with almost anyone at Light Heavyweight.

                I think he beats Billy Conn, Micheal Spinks, Archie Moore and Gene Tunney. They give him issues but he beats them IMO.

                Anyone else who I rank under that I believe he beats; Gibbons, Rosenbloon, Johnson, Loughran etc etc.

                I believe he beats Roy Jones with little problems.

                I read a comment that people don't rank Foster in the Top 10 at 175. I can't see how you can make that assessment.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
                  I read a comment that people don't rank Foster in the Top 10 at 175. I can't see how you can make that assessment.
                  Check out this gem by Franken****tard :hahahaha9:
                  Originally posted by frankenfrank View Post
                  Jones' and Johnsons' KO's of Foster at 175 , are the explanations to why Foster is in no way a top15 at 175. Tarver is definitely above Foster. Even Glen Johnson and Reggie Johnson are above Foster at this weight.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by poet682006 View Post
                    Check out this gem by Franken****tard :hahahaha9:
                    Wow, that is incredible.

                    I don't know who that poster is. Does he still post here?

                    @ Tarver, Glen and Reggie Johnson. Utterly abserd.

                    I see little argument to even rank Harold Johnson above him. Glen and Reggie? That has to be a troll or a mental disorder that restrains you from seeing logic.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by Wild Blue Yonda View Post
                      Foley was easily a superior HW to Spinks and would account for him accordingly.
                      I would add that Foster's losses to Jones, Terrell, Foley, etc. were early in his career when he was poorly managed and had to train while holding a day job.
                      Last edited by Scott9945; 05-12-2011, 07:23 PM.

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