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Can someone explain to me how boxing has "evolved" since the middle the last century

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  • #31
    "We match fighters." "Fighters are matched up."

    But the fights themselves are called "bouts" not "matches." Wrestling and tennis have matches, boxing has bouts.

    "Bouts Tell the Truth"

    If you are going to claim to know more than everyone else, that's OK, kinda common around here, but you have to get the jargon correct.

    It's like calling a first basman's glove a "mitt" or saying a soccer match ended three to zero, instead of three-nil. You can do it, but to a real fan you are going to expose your ignorance.

    Which you do quite often here.
    Last edited by Willie Pep 229; 10-11-2023, 12:38 PM.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Willie Pep 229 View Post
      "We match fighters." "Fighters are matched up."

      But the fights themselves are called "bouts" not "matches." Wrestling and tennis have matches, boxing has bouts.

      "Bouts Tell the Truth"

      If you are going to claim to know more than everyone else, that's OK, kinda common around here, but you have to get the jargon correct.

      It's like calling a first basman's glove a "mitt" or saying a soccer match ended three to zero, instead of three-nil. You can do it, but to a real fan you are going to expose your ignorance.

      Which you do quite often here.
      I claim nothing I wont be explaining anymore,I have ascended i no longer need to explain,I now rely on others eyes,you have the chose now to see or chose not see,you either can see good or can't,its not up to me to make you're kind see or not,I can't make you see good or not,I rely on matches/bouts or whatever you wanna call them only now,nothing else matters

      I speak from video not from quotes/fiction/highlights im ascended now not on the same level mentally as others here or anywhere else on the net,nothing can sway my truth,nothing can change what videos show which I speak from,no words matter to me no longer
      Last edited by Ascended; 10-11-2023, 01:12 PM.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Matches tell truth View Post
        I claim nothing I wont be explaining anymore,I have ascended i no longer need to explain,I now rely on others eyes,you have the chose now to see or chose not see,you either can see good or can't,its not up to me to make you're kind see or not,I can't make you see good or not,I rely on matches/bouts or whatever you wanna call them only now,nothing else matters

        I speak from video not from quotes/fiction/highlights im ascended now not on the same level mentally as others here or anywhere else on the net,nothing can sway my truth,nothing can change what videos show which I speak from,no words matter to me no longer
        OK but call them bouts or fights, not matches.

        Enjoy your eyes - go-ahead and "see good."

        But don't call it a "boxing match." I insist you don't, and will accept no explanation nor excuse for doing it.

        You will comply with my wishes.
        Last edited by Willie Pep 229; 10-11-2023, 01:30 PM.

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        • #34
          Change does not mean advancement. Sometimes change is devolution, as in the sport of boxing today.

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          • #35
            Dude, if boxing "evolved" so quickly, how come a 45 year old George Foreman was able to come out of retirement & beat 90% of the prime fighters he fought?

            If people evolve so quickly, somebody from the '70s should've never been able to compete in the '90s.

            It's ridiculous.

            Human evolution is not like technological evolution.

            It's literally taken us about 300,000 years to evolve into what we are today and guess what?

            Me & you probably aren't that different than our fathers or grandfathers.

            I'm ready to come out & say my father born in the 1950s was a wayyyyy better athlete than me.

            He was only 5'7" & could still dunk a basketball at almost 40 years old

            If humans evolved as quickly as all these "geniuses" say we do, then we should have sprouted wings or something by now. It's ridiculous

            Fact is in every sport, there's a period of rapid development when the rules and quirks are figured out, but after that, the only real differences are in rules changes that affect the way the sport is played & obviously things like better steroids & surgeries that allow guys to perform at peak performances for longer.

            Sugar Ray Robinson could step out of a time machine from 1947 & knock Errol Spence or Yeordenis Ugas out in 4 or 5 rounds.

            Muhammad Ali from 1967 would run circles around Tyson Fury or Oleksandr Usyk

            Humans don't evolve that quickly, sorry.

            Once boxing hit it's plateau in the mid 20th century, it's been stagnant ever since with only a few exceptions coming around each generation to add their name in the pantheon of all-time great.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by SBleeder View Post
              Because I'm just not seeing it.

              Fighters in the "old days":
              -Sparred
              -Did roadwork
              -Hit the heavy bag, speed bag, and double-end bag
              -Eat right

              Modern fighters:
              -Spar
              -Do roadwork
              -Hit the heavy bag, speed bag, and double-end bag
              -Eat right, as much as is possible given that most foods are processed or covered with chemicals
              -Some weight training
              Boxing has not improved since the1950's,imo
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              • #37
                watch any average 70s-80s fighter in full matches,and see if you guys can see advances in tech/timing/fluidity/angles,probably not since a lot here aren't sane and are scared to, we can easily see the 30s-40s looks like novices compared to a average 70s

                for ones ascended like me we can see mutiple changes from 70s to 80s,and 80s-90s,and early 00 compared to 70s-80s looks very basic and flawed,we also can see 10 years after the early 00s it became way more advanced in those areas,I feel no need to explain the obvious to people who I cannot change how they see or to make them see,my eyes and others as I said like me who can see and who are sane as I am are the only words I care about

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Matches tell truth View Post
                  watch any average 70s-80s fighter in full matches,and see if you guys can see advances in tech/timing/fluidity/angles,probably not since a lot here aren't sane and are scared to, we can easily see the 30s-40s looks like novices compared to a average 70s

                  for ones ascended like me we can see mutiple changes from 70s to 80s,and 80s-90s,and early 00 compared to 70s-80s looks very basic and flawed,we also can see 10 years after the early 00s it became way more advanced in those areas,I feel no need to explain the obvious to people who I cannot change how they see or to make them see,my eyes and others as I said like me who can see and who are sane as I am are the only words I care about
                  How many times must you be banned before you get the message?
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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Ivich View Post
                    How many times must you be banned before you get the message?
                    I no longer have to speak in words to others who cannot see or chose to be not sane, im here to spread my vision and what's on recorded footage,I cannot alter footage or can I alter the past and make it show things in future era's,I cannot get any message as I cannot change my vision,my mission is to spread the truth,that is what he will continue to do that no matter the opposition who goes against it
                    Last edited by Ascended; 10-12-2023, 10:10 AM.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by pacquia0 View Post
                      The best heavyweight, light heavyweight, middleweight and lightweight have all come along since the middle of the last century.
                      That may be true.

                      Since the middle of the last century, the talent pool in boxing has become very, very shallow.

                      Do you find the best swimmers by judging them in water that they can stand up in? .................Rockin'

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