Top ten all time p4p

[StarshipTrooper]

Sanchez vs Arugello is a pretty amazing matchup I havent thought of before.

That's got me pondering the "might-have-beens" again, I think I'll run that on Title Bout and see what comes up :thinking9:

Poet

[SCtrojansbaby]

Age means nothing to Bernard Hopkins. As I said he got better as he fought on. Are we even talking about the same person? 22 in a row means nothing when your still coming up in the sport fighting nobody's. I don't think Hopkins hit his prime until the 1st Segundo Mercado fight. That brought the best outta him because he had to fight back from knockdowns.

Hopkins is one of my favorite fighters and I've seen all of his fights, have you? If you did you would know their was a huge difference between Hopkins from 94 to present compared with early 1993-and before Hopkins. Hopkins learned from his losses and matured

B-Hop is my favorite look at my sig.

Most of his early fights were not on TV. But I have seen probable his last 35 or so. He was the same fighter against Roy as he was up until the Tito fight. Roy like he did to every body made him look bad.

[The_Demon]

B-Hop was 28 years old, won 22 in a row before Roy and went undefeated for over a decade after Roy if that isn't a prime then I don't know what is.

As for fighters having more then 2 A+ wins. Yes of course most old time boxers who fought 6-12x a year have more big wins they had way more fights. Which is why it is dumb to compare them to modern fighters

You should stop posting now

[tyger]

Wonder if Pernell WHitaker would of done better in lists if he had wins against J.C.Chavez, Oscar and J.L.Ramirez the first time on his record?

[$Bullsfam$]

B-Hop is my favorite look at my sig.

Most of his early fights were not on TV. But I have seen probable his last 35 or so. He was the same fighter against Roy as he was up until the Tito fight. Roy like he did to every body made him look bad.

hahaha did you just change that?

How you going to be a #1 Hopkins fan and think he never got better or improved since the Roy Jones fight? He was no where near his prime until after it because it made him a better fighter. I honestly couldn't even tell you when Hopkins prime was and be 100% sure about it because of the fact he got better with age.

40+ years old and still schooling the young bloods. GOTTA LOVE IT!

[Zizou3]

my revised p4p atg list........

1. Harry Greb
2. Willie Pep
3. Bob Fitzsimmons
4. Jimmy Wilde
5. Roberto Duran
6. Ray Robinson
7. Jack Dempsey
8. Gene Tunney
9. Sam Langford
10. Henry Armstrong


list subject to change.........

[GJC]

I think there is too many Heavyweighs personally but, very good list.

I only have Muhammad Ali in my Top 10 for a Heavyweight and he's in the latter half.

1.Sugar Ray Robinson
2.Harry Greb
3.Sam Langford
4.Henry Armstrong
5.Ezzard Charles
6.Willie Pep
7.Roberto Duran
8.Benny Leonard
9.Muhammad Ali
10.Eder Jofe
11.Joe Gans
12.Bob Fitzsimmons.
13.Mickey Walker
14.Jimmy Wilde
15.Barney Ross
16.Jimmy McLarlin
17.Joe Louis
18.Gene Tunney
19.Sugar Ray Leonard
20.Tony Canzoneri
21.Pernell Whitaker
22.Charley Burely
23.Archie Moore
24.Aleixs Agruello
25.Sandy Saddler
26.Kid Gavilan
27.Julio Cesar Chavez
28.Stanley Ketchel
29.Terry McGovern
30.Marvin Hagler
31.Jose Napoles
32.Carlos Monzon
33.Thomas Hearns
34.Original Joe Walcott
35.Ted Kid Lewis
36.Ruben Olivares
37.Fighting Harada
38. Manny Pacquiao
39.Ricardo Lopez
40.Wilfred Benitez
41.Salvador Sanchez
48.Nicolino Locche
49.Billy Conn
50.**** Tiger
51.Emile Griffith
52.Roy Jones Jr
53.Wilfredo Gomez
54.Young Peter Jackson
55.Antonio Cervantes
56.Miguel Canto
57.Nino Benvenuti

This is my latest list. Forgot Galaxy and cba writing out all the numbers for the upteenth time so he'd be about 38ish.

I only made this last week and Archie Moore is way too low for my liking already.

Lot of work in that list, where you gonna put Packy McFarland, Barn?

[RubenSonny]

Wonder if Pernell WHitaker would of done better in lists if he had wins against J.C.Chavez, Oscar and J.L.Ramirez the first time on his record?

I actually count those all as wins and I think he might just miss the top 10 on my list, he didn't get on the last time I put down a list, though I wouldn't be mad at anyone with him in the lower end of the top 10, there are few with better resumes.

Lot of work in that list, where you gonna put Packy McFarland, Barn?

GJC you pedantic bastard

[GJC]

GJC you pedantic bastard

Haha, I'm just helping with the next 43 when Barn rounds it off. Solid list though we can always argue anyone's order. Hands up, I always knock Charles further down my list than I should and probably put Archie Moore up a few slots higher than most but lists are personal.
The Charles ploy is also to distract people from the fact that Baksi is slipped in somewhere

[RubenSonny]

Haha, I'm just helping with the next 43 when Barn rounds it off. Solid list though we can always argue anyone's order. Hands up, I always knock Charles further down my list than I should and probably put Archie Moore up a few slots higher than most but lists are personal.
The Charles ploy is also to distract people from the fact that Baksi is slipped in somewhere

lol I actually didn't know anything about Baksi until you mentioned him to me awhile ago in a thread about the best heavyweight contenders. it is an excellent list though, I'm not sure if I'd switch the top 7 round at all, I've always ranked Charles higher than Moore though I know a lot of people do it the other way, I'd love to see Nelson in there but it is what it is.