Top ten all time p4p

[Marchegiano]

wow, respect, and way to remember. I'm gonna try to do 10.

Tom Sayers ( LPRR 155lb HW champ. Iffen ya don't know the name you should google it. Right good reads mate I promise.)
Ray Robinson
Jack NP Dempsey ( First p4p king, Said to be better than Sullivan. )
Sam Langford
Bob Fitzsimmons
Harry Greb
Archie Moore
Jem Mace. (toured the states with John C Heenan in the 1860's. EVERYONE owes a bit of their style to the Gypsy...he refaced boxing and redefined skills.)
Nat Langham
Rocky Marciano ( I justify one of the worst "boxer" skilled HW's of all time by claiming he is the epitome of slugger. not p4p in skills but p4p in determination. Rocco is the p4p king of heart. Plus who at 180lbs has cracked a skull? Great, now, who weighing more has cracked a skull? p4p power)

[fitefanSHO]

1. Sugar Ray Robinson
2. Henry Armstrong
3. Muhammad Ali
4. Joe Louis
5. Roberto Duran
6. Carlos Monzon
7. Archie Moore
8. Sugar Ray Leonard
9. Marvelous Marvin Hagler
10. Rocky Marciano

(but please understand I am from Brockton AND highly regard SRL)

[Barn]

1. Sugar Ray Robinson
2. Henry Armstrong
3. Muhammad Ali
4. Joe Louis
5. Roberto Duran
6. Carlos Monzon
7. Archie Moore
8. Sugar Ray Leonard
9. Marvelous Marvin Hagler
10. Rocky Marciano

(but please understand I am from Brockton AND highly regard SRL)

Where do you rank Langford and Greb?

[fitefanSHO]

Where do you rank Langford and Greb?

Top 20, somewhere between 11 & 20. I had to pick 10, no easy task!

[McGoorty]

Longevity and he didn't hand pick his opponents at higher weights like SRL did. I wouldn't argue to hard against any one ranking Leonard higher though.

I agree with you about ray Leonard, but I don't have Duran as high as a lot of posters around. Leonard's 39 fights is far too sparse ( christ Kid Williams had 200 plus and hardly lost a fight, Les Darcy's last 48 fights took just 47 months !!!, I can list 40 more at least who did that )I know he was an incredible talent but NO WAY does 39 match with guys who with 150 plus fights. there are others that I think are a little high, but I don't want to nit-pick too much on other posts, I don't believe in a definitive top 10 or even 3 and even though I have Robinson as number one, I don't have too much confidence that I'm right, because I suspect that some earlier fighters may have destroyed him. SRR's record alone gives him the claim rights,..... but who am I,...... or WE, to say.

[McGoorty]

1. Sugar Ray Robinson
2. Henry Armstrong
3. Muhammad Ali
4. Joe Louis
5. Roberto Duran
6. Carlos Monzon
7. Archie Moore
8. Sugar Ray Leonard
9. Marvelous Marvin Hagler
10. Rocky Marciano

(but please understand I am from Brockton AND highly regard SRL)

I'm not from Brockton or even the U.S., nor Italian, But you don't have to, to love the Rock, my favorite HW of 'em all, a REAL warrior !!!

[GJC]

Rocky Marciano ( I justify one of the worst "boxer" skilled HW's of all time by claiming he is the epitome of slugger. not p4p in skills but p4p in determination. Rocco is the p4p king of heart. Plus who at 180lbs has cracked a skull? Great, now, who weighing more has cracked a skull? p4p power)

Can't have been the only one who wasn't suprised to see you put the Rock in there no arguments from me love the Rock
Re comments on Jem Mace, check out Mendoza too he also pushed boxing forward.

[Poet682006]

Reading that bob fitzsimmons article theres alot of black smith & plasterer etc etc i have no doubt roy at 175lbs beats fitzsimmons. To fast to powerful to skilled. Before people call me an idiot its MY OPINION. People defend old fighters and get abit delusional about it TBH. People talk about fitzsimmons like they have seen him with there own eyes and will bash roy, its bollocks in MY OPINION. Roy>>> fitzsimmons

Opinions are like azzholes: The wrong people have them and they're all full of **** :jerk0ff9:

Poet

[McGoorty]

wow, respect, and way to remember. I'm gonna try to do 10.

Tom Sayers ( LPRR 155lb HW champ. Iffen ya don't know the name you should google it. Right good reads mate I promise.)
Ray Robinson
Jack NP Dempsey ( First p4p king, Said to be better than Sullivan. )
Sam Langford
Bob Fitzsimmons
Harry Greb
Archie Moore
Jem Mace. (toured the states with John C Heenan in the 1860's. EVERYONE owes a bit of their style to the Gypsy...he refaced boxing and redefined skills.)
Nat Langham
Rocky Marciano ( I justify one of the worst "boxer" skilled HW's of all time by claiming he is the epitome of slugger. not p4p in skills but p4p in determination. Rocco is the p4p king of heart. Plus who at 180lbs has cracked a skull? Great, now, who weighing more has cracked a skull? p4p power)

Your'e right about Marciano. I can't stand it when idiots talk about skills or lack of it with Marciano. Rocky did some things in the ring that took GREAT SKILL. On youtube, somebody WHO KNOWS Boxing skills put a tribute showing film at different speeds of Rocky, for instance his ability to set up a killer blow after slipping under punches and a little step forward as he comes up and over with his hook. Do some morons actually think that a small HW that Knocked out -- "FORTY TWO" in just 49 fights, some posters (who have beaten nobody-- EVER) think this way !!!!!! WEIRD !!!!!!. .Keep up the good work M.

[McGoorty]

Opinions are like azzholes: The wrong people have them and they're all full of **** :jerk0ff9:

Poet

THE ONLY ROY BETTER THAN BOB FITZSIMMONS Is ROY ROGERS,,,,,,,but that's debatable