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  • Steak
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    #41
    Originally posted by poet682006
    And I've gotten some heat before for ranking Arguello as highly as I do. I just happen to think he's one of the finest fighters I ever laid eyes on. Call it a quirk but I have Arguello ranked #1 at Featherweight.....over Pep.

    Poet
    do you think that Arguello would have beaten Pep at Featherweight? He always had trouble with movers/potshotters, like Marcel and Fernandez.

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      #42
      Originally posted by SCtrojansbaby
      Two Words, Unprecedented Dominance

      Moved up from Middleweight to Heavyweight
      A+ wins vs ATG Toney and Hopkins(yes B-Hop was in his prime)
      B+ wins vs Ruiz Hill McCullum Harding Griffin Gonzalez
      Lost maybe 25 rounds in his first 49 fights
      The thing is a lot of the people in most people's top 10 have more then 2 A+ wins but in reality he on has 1 A+ win. Jones was coming out of the Olympics when he turned pro, Hopkins was coming out of jail. Hopkins got better as he fought on. He was young but not prime. He didn't hit his prime until the late 90's.

      The list is pretty good. Of course as anybody else I'd switch a few people but I haven't even made a list up myself yet because I still gotta ***** load more fights and careers to watch before I could make one. All lists are opinions and everybody has different ones but it's not a bad list at all.

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      • StarshipTrooper
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        #43
        Originally posted by Steak
        do you think that Arguello would have beaten Pep at Featherweight? He always had trouble with movers/potshotters, like Marcel and Fernandez.
        I think he'd have problems with Pep.....as I think anyone would have trouble with Pep. I can see either fighter eeking out a razor thin decision though. They're close enough in talent in my eyes that I wouldn't have any issue with anyone ranking Pep #1. I think Arguello sparks Saddler and pounds out a solid if unspectacular decision against Sanchez: The only two other guys I could see being in competion for the top spot.

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          #44
          Originally posted by poet682006
          I think he'd have problems with Pep.....as I think anyone would have trouble with Pep. I can see either fighter eeking out a razor thin decision though. They're close enough in talent in my eyes that I wouldn't have any issue with anyone ranking Pep #1. I think Arguello sparks Saddler and pounds out a solid if unspectacular decision against Sanchez: The only two other guys I could see being in competion for the top spot.

          Poet
          Sanchez vs Arugello is a pretty amazing matchup I havent thought of before.

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            #45
            Originally posted by Steak
            Sanchez vs Arugello is a pretty amazing matchup I havent thought of before.
            It's one that should have been made IMO.....Arguello was moving up in weight when Sanchez came to prominence though. Would have loved to have seen it that's for sure.

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            • SCtrojansbaby
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              #46
              Originally posted by Natedatpkid
              The thing is a lot of the people in most people's top 10 have more then 2 A+ wins but in reality he on has 1 A+ win. Jones was coming out of the Olympics when he turned pro, Hopkins was coming out of jail. Hopkins got better as he fought on. He was young but not prime. He didn't hit his prime until the late 90's.
              B-Hop was 28 years old, won 22 in a row before Roy and went undefeated for over a decade after Roy if that isn't a prime then I don't know what is.

              As for fighters having more then 2 A+ wins. Yes of course most old time boxers who fought 6-12x a year have more big wins they had way more fights. Which is why it is dumb to compare them to modern fighters

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                #47
                Originally posted by SCtrojansbaby
                I don't know what is.
                And there's the answer.

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                  #48
                  Barrera Gomez Pacquiao and Sanchez would all beat Arguello IMO

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by SCtrojansbaby
                    B-Hop was 28 years old, won 22 in a row before Roy and went undefeated for over a decade after Roy if that isn't a prime then I don't know what is.

                    As for fighters having more then 2 A+ wins. Yes of course most old time boxers who fought 6-12x a year have more big wins they had way more fights. Which is why it is dumb to compare them to modern fighters
                    Age means nothing to Bernard Hopkins. As I said he got better as he fought on. Are we even talking about the same person? 22 in a row means nothing when your still coming up in the sport fighting nobody's. I don't think Hopkins hit his prime until the 1st Segundo Mercado fight. That brought the best outta him because he had to fight back from knockdowns.

                    Hopkins is one of my favorite fighters and I've seen all of his fights, have you? If you did you would know their was a huge difference between Hopkins from 94 to present compared with early 1993-and before Hopkins. Hopkins learned from his losses and matured

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by SCtrojansbaby
                      Barrera Gomez Pacquiao and Sanchez would all beat Arguello IMO
                      Go take another bong hit and see what other fantasies you can come up with.

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