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  • Steak
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    #21
    Originally posted by Barnburner
    I agree, I don't have neither in my Top 50.

    The list favours heavyweights but, there me be some criteria such as H2H which could certainly make Dempsey in the Top 10.
    No, there shouldnt be any criteria that has either guy in the top 10 all time. thats flat out doing an injustice to better fighters that deserve that recongnition.

    they werent even the best HWs of all time, and HWs history isnt as deep as Lightweight or Welterweight.

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    • JAB5239
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      #22
      Originally posted by Barnburner
      This was a little bit ago some of my opinions have even changed(Archie Moore for example) since however long ago I made it. Which wasn't a great amount of time.

      If your opinions don't change it means you've stopped learning. New information on past fighters seems to come out pretty regularly through. Good list BB.

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      • Barn
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        #23
        Originally posted by Steak
        No, there shouldnt be any criteria that has either guy in the top 10 all time. thats flat out doing an injustice to better fighters that deserve that recongnition.

        they werent even the best HWs of all time, and HWs history isnt as deep as Lightweight or Welterweight.
        H2H I could see a potential arguement for Dempsey if I'm honest. Not a vert strong one but, still.

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        • Barn
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          #24
          Originally posted by JAB5239

          If your opinions don't change it means you've stopped learning. New information on past fighters seems to come out pretty regularly through. Good list BB.
          yes I know but, that list was only from 3 weeks ago lol. and thanks.

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          • katsidis
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            #25
            Originally posted by SCtrojansbaby
            Average Boxingscene User says: What do you mean you're so ignorant! No fighter of the past 2 decades could ever be great. Fighters that I have only seen bits of in shytty video are better.
            thats about right

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            • StarshipTrooper
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              #26
              This is based on ability adjusted for resume as opposed to resume alone:
              01. Ray Robinson
              02. Bob Fitzsimmons
              03. Sam Langford
              04. Roberto Duran
              05. Henry Armstrong
              06. Alexis Arguello
              07. Benny Leonard
              08. Ray Leonard
              09. Pernell Whitaker
              10. Ezzard Charles

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              • Barn
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                #27
                Originally posted by poet682006
                This is based on ability adjusted for resume as opposed to resume alone:
                01. Ray Robinson
                02. Bob Fitzsimmons
                03. Sam Langford
                04. Roberto Duran
                05. Henry Armstrong
                06. Alexis Arguello
                07. Benny Leonard
                08. Ray Leonard
                09. Pernell Whitaker
                10. Ezzard Charles
                Is Harry Greb ommited because of no footage?

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                • Joeyzagz
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by poet682006
                  This is based on ability adjusted for resume as opposed to resume alone:
                  01. Ray Robinson
                  02. Bob Fitzsimmons
                  03. Sam Langford
                  04. Roberto Duran
                  05. Henry Armstrong
                  06. Alexis Arguello
                  07. Benny Leonard
                  08. Ray Leonard
                  09. Pernell Whitaker
                  10. Ezzard Charles
                  I like this poster a lot more after seeing this list. Greb is the only one missing.

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                  • StarshipTrooper
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Barnburner
                    Is Harry Greb ommited because of no footage?
                    I favor smaller fighters when making p4p lists (hence no Heavyweights and a list with more than half the entries from Welterweight and below). At the same time, I have Robinson, Fitzsimmons, and Langford all rated higher than Greb at Middleweight.

                    Poet

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                    • StarshipTrooper
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by JoeyZagz
                      I like this poster a lot more after seeing this list. Greb is the only one missing.
                      Fitzsimmons was easily one of the very greatest to ever lace them up. He was kicking the crap out of Jeffries before breaking both hands in one fight and simply wearing down in the other.

                      You might find this article to be interesting:



                      PS. I DID take you off block btw.....

                      Poet

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