Vitali Klitschko vs. Rocky Marciano

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  • StarshipTrooper
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    #61
    Originally posted by Spray_resistant
    Its one factor yes, but I know where I am and I know I am in the wrong damn town here so anyone from 60-80 years ago would ko anyone from today regardless of size.
    Myth #1 on Boxing Scene: Fighters today are better then they've ever been and would school all those old pre-historic dudes (pre-historic usually being defined as anybody from more than 10 years ago). It seems to me that it's the conceit of every generation to believe that they're better than their forebears, and every generation is proved wrong. And then the next generation of self-important fools comes along.....

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      #62
      Originally posted by poet682006
      Myth #1 on Boxing Scene: Fighters today are better then they've ever been and would school all those old pre-historic dudes (pre-historic usually being defined as anybody from more than 10 years ago). It seems to me that it's the conceit of every generation to believe that they're better than their forebears, and every generation is proved wrong. And then the next generation of self-important fools comes along.....

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      Not saying I have seen no old school fighter who could compete with the best today but c'mon over all they are better.

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        #63
        Originally posted by Spray_resistant
        Its one factor yes, but I know where I am and I know I am in the wrong damn town here so anyone from 60-80 years ago would ko anyone from today regardless of size.
        theres sooo many factors in marcianos favor....when marciano is close enough to hit, VK isnt going to have any leverage or distance. hes 50-60 lbs lighter so hes obliviously going to be faster on his feet in closing the gap then Vk is going to be able to back pedal and theres no way VK is keeping up with Marciano's stamina. VK will be dead tired by the 4th trying to out maneuver marciano just so he can have some distance on his shots while being pummeled to the body. by the 5th marcianos got the jab pattern down and has no problem slipping to the out side and coming in with a lunging overhand right. by the 6th VK pulls a No mas, he might continue on to be Ko'ed in the 8th but id imagine hes exhausted and realizes the futility of continuing into the 6th.

        while VK has 50-60 lbs in his favor...
        Last edited by Spartacus Sully; 05-05-2011, 01:44 AM.

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          #64
          Originally posted by Spray_resistant
          Not saying I have seen no old school fighter who could compete with the best today but c'mon over all they are better.
          I've been watching boxing a LONG time and no they aren't better.....they may not be worse per se but they aren't better.

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            #65
            Originally posted by Spray_resistant
            There is no possible way Rocky would beat VK, **** Chad Dawson easily schools Rocky to a 120-107 UD.

            The fanatical nostalgic zeal I see in here amazes me everytime I come into this section.

            Come in bro, Chad Dawson, really? Every version of Charles was miles better than Dawson.

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              #66
              Originally posted by Spartacus Sully
              theres sooo many factors in marcianos favor....when marciano is close enough to hit, VK isnt going to have any leverage or distance. hes 50-60 lbs lighter so hes obliviously going to be faster on his feet in closing the gap then Vk is going to be able to back pedal and theres no way VK is keeping up with Marciano's stamina. VK will be dead tired by the 4th trying to out maneuver marciano just so he can have some distance on his shots while being pummeled to the body. by the 5th marcianos got the jab pattern down and has no problem slipping to the out side and coming in with a lunging overhand right. by the 6th VK pulls a No mas, he might continue on to be Ko'ed in the 8th but id imagine hes exhausted and realizes the futility of continuing into the 6th.

              while VK has 50-60 lbs in his favor...
              Vitali is a guy who has been known to throw 1k punches in 12 rd fights, I can't think of any other HW regularly has done that.

              So your basis that he is somehow going to just tire out is pretty flawed and not based on anything we know about him, you might have a better argument if we were talking about Wladdy though.

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                #67
                Originally posted by JAB5239

                Come in bro, Chad Dawson, really? Every version of Charles was miles better than Dawson.
                I don't think its inconceivable at all to think that with bad Chad's speed and height advantage if he fought very cautiously he could win a boring UD over Rocky but sure at any point Rocky could ko any man his own size like Chad.

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by Spray_resistant
                  Vitali is a guy who has been known to throw 1k punches in 12 rd fights, I can't think of any other HW regularly has done that.

                  So your basis that he is somehow going to just tire out is pretty flawed and not based on anything we know about him, you might have a better argument if we were talking about Wladdy though.
                  my basis has nothing to do with his punching but instead his leg endurance.....dosent he like not even run? or is that his bro that only swims?

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by Spartacus Sully
                    my basis has nothing to do with his punching but instead his leg endurance.....dosent he like not even run? or is that his bro that only swims?
                    Your thinking of Haye, he said he doesn't do road work in an interview.

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Spray_resistant
                      I don't think its inconceivable at all to think that with bad Chad's speed and height advantage if he fought very cautiously he could win a boring UD over Rocky but sure at any point Rocky could ko any man his own size like Chad.
                      With all due respect to you, Dawson lost to Pascal and was beaten up in his first fight with Johnson. Marciano was much more relentless and a much harder puncher than either of those two. I like Dawson a lot.I got to see him fight live on a few occasions when he was coming up. But he's simply over matched here. VK on the other hand.....like I've already said, I'd be rooting for "The Rock", but I certainly wouldn't be betting on him against Vitaly.

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