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  • #51
    From where i'm sitting it seems pretty silly to suggest Vitali's got a chance. Vitali's who game centers around using the jab to keep his opponents away.....you find me a clip video or newspaper where Rocky step backwards due to a jab. I havn't seen anyone with the last name Klitschko succeed when their jab fails. Since Rocco's going to negate the idea that the jab will keep him back what's Vitali got for him? Constitution advantage goes Rocky. Punch power advantage goes Rocky. Blockbuster can cut the ring with the best of them. Suggesting that Vitali can handle Rock's power is silly. Rocco's too tough, hits too hard, and too intent on getting that KO.


    Archie Moore LWH Champ KO record holder
    Don ****ell BHW Champ
    Ezzard Charles Former HW Champ
    Roland La Starza Only SD closest thing to a revenge match Rocco's got
    Joe Walcott Former HW Champ
    Harry Mathews for title contention 90(61 ko's)-7
    Bernie Reynolds 52-13, can? yes. Rocco hit him in the jaw and lifted him three or four feet in the air.
    Lee Savold EBU HW Champ
    Joe Louis Former HW Champ 12 year reign

    Who the **** else needed to be KO'd to prove Rocco's greatness? I mean you can claim the whole era's weak, but you can't say he didn't beat the **** out of the who's who of the time.
    Last edited by Marchegiano; 05-04-2011, 09:14 PM. Reason: **** y'all that's ****ing a good record

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    • #52
      Originally posted by Marchegiano View Post
      From where i'm sitting it seems pretty silly to suggest Vitali's got a chance. Vitali's who game centers around using the jab to keep his opponents away.....you find me a clip video or newspaper where Rocky step backwards due to a jab. I havn't seen anyone with the last name Klitschko succeed when their jab fails. Since Rocco's going to negate the idea that the jab will keep him back what's Vitali got for him? Constitution advantage goes Rocky. Punch power advantage goes Rocky. Blockbuster can cut the ring with the best of them. Suggesting that Vitali can handle Rock's power is silly. Rocco's too tough, hits too hard, and too intent on getting that KO.


      Archie Moore LWH Champ KO record holder
      Don ****ell BHW Champ
      Ezzard Charles Former HW Champ
      Roland La Starza Only SD closest thing to a revenge match Rocco's got
      Joe Walcott Former HW Champ
      Harry Mathews for title contention 90(61 ko's)-7
      Bernie Reynolds 52-13, can? yes. Rocco hit him in the jaw and lifted him three or four feet in the air.
      Lee Savold EBU HW Champ
      Joe Louis Former HW Champ 12 year reign

      Who the **** else needed to be KO'd to prove Rocco's greatness? I mean you can claim the whole era's weak, but you can't say he didn't beat the **** out of the who's who of the time.
      You lost me when you casually dismissed Rocky being dominated by Vitali's jab. How about showing me a clip where Marciano fought someone even resembling the 6'7 250 lb Klitschko?

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      • #53
        Originally posted by SeattleSeahawks
        Tyson weighed 220 in his prime and Marciano weighed 180. Because he is white he is above logic? He wouldnt of made it of 1 round with Vitali or any other 205 plus heavyweights. Why the hell cant you get that?

        Charles was washed up period. I dont care what his age was he was done as a top level fighter, Walcott was done. Dont give me the Bernard Hopkins thing. Hopkins is still winning. Walcott fought Maciano 2 times and then retired at around 40 years old. Moore was done. He had over 150 bouts by the time Marciano fought them and Marciano struggled against all of these people.

        Neither Charles, Walcott, or Moore were heavyweights by modern standard but he would beat a real heavyweight? Get out of here. Then you see people say this. " If the fight goes late Marciano would win because of his stamina" Number 1 all smaller guys have better stamina than larger ones. 2 Marciano would of never made out of the first round with guys like Tyson, Foreman, Lewis or Bowe to began with.

        This racially biased putting Marciano on a pedistal is played out. At best Marciano was a average fighter with average power. Taking 10 rounds to knock out glass chin fighters past their primes and getting credit for it only works if you are Marciano or a hispanic, latino, or asian fighter like Manny Pac.

        Marciano is a joke, Get over it.


        Size? Do you have a clue how much power, in any unit of measurement, is needed to cause a KO? How big a role is hand size? How much power has been reported Rocky puts out? How much power is necessary to break the average man's skull? How much does the size of the man effect the density of his skull? Once you've answered these questions for yourself you'll realize how ****ing ****ed ignorant it is to attack his size.

        Old beaters? Well who the **** was he supposed to KO? He beat every up and comer on his way up than took out the champs and former champs. Here's a stat for you: out of 43 KO's over 25 of those men quit boxing with in five fights after facing Rocky. That's Majority son. That's to say Rocky no only put more people into retirement than any other boxer, but when facing Marciano your facing a high probability of getting hit so hard you don't want to a boxer anymore.

        Last and the most obviously ignorant statement in your post the stamina. Rocky's going to hit harder in the 15th than the 1st.....that has got nothing to do with size. go hit a ****ing heavy bag dumb ass.
        Last edited by JAB5239; 05-05-2011, 01:49 AM.

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        • #54
          Originally posted by Scott9945 View Post
          You lost me when you casually dismissed Rocky being dominated by Vitali's jab. How about showing me a clip where Marciano fought someone even resembling the 6'7 250 lb Klitschko?
          My point is it the jab in no way will stop Rocky from throwing. Now will the over hand stop Klitschko from jabbing? I mean it is a potential skull break...not crack but break...read where I attack attacking size. There is a point where you've become too big to add extra power due to the hand proportion.

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          • #55
            VK has this, too big, too tall and has the skills to keep rocky on the outside, backing him up with the jab or double and triple jabs, if not then a straight or overhand right will have Rocky thinking.

            It would either be a ko or tko victory, the fight would be stopped in the middle rounds (12 round fight, wouldnt need 15 imo).

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            • #56
              Originally posted by Marchegiano View Post
              My point is it the jab in no way will stop Rocky from throwing. Now will the over hand stop Klitschko from jabbing? I mean it is a potential skull break...not crack but break...read where I attack attacking size. There is a point where you've become too big to add extra power due to the hand proportion.
              And my point is that Rocky would absolutely get stopped by the jab, and Marciano would be taking too much punishment to land any skull breaking punches. When Vitali leans back then Rocky couldn't hit nothing. He wasn't big enough or fast enough. You're buying into mythology. Marciano was a great heavyweight in a long gone era. It would be a lot more difficult for him now.
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              • #57
                Marciano would destroy vitali, soooo much going for Marciano in this.

                Marciano's right at his chin and crouch would negate the jab and his stamina plus his ability to work on the inside would negate any leaning that vitali would do or want to do, vitali would lean and marciano would throw him back up on his feet while firing off clean shots and with the work marcianos going to be doing to vitalis body hes going to be out of energy and leaning well before the 4th which only puts him in a worse position when dealing with some one like marciano. it might start off like a good fight but by the 5th i see vitali just falling down in pain, not even from getting hit in the face just falling down unable to take the barrage of punches, or out on the stool before the 6th starts.

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                • #58
                  There is no possible way Rocky would beat VK, **** Chad Dawson easily schools Rocky to a 120-107 UD.

                  The fanatical nostalgic zeal I see in here amazes me everytime I come into this section.

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by Spray_resistant View Post
                    There is no possible way Rocky would beat VK, **** Chad Dawson easily schools Rocky to a 120-107 UD.

                    The fanatical nostalgic zeal I see in here amazes me everytime I come into this section.
                    why? because VK is 50-60 lbs heavier?

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by Spartacus Sully View Post
                      why? because VK is 50-60 lbs heavier?
                      Its one factor yes, but I know where I am and I know I am in the wrong damn town here so anyone from 60-80 years ago would ko anyone from today regardless of size.
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