Hagler vs Monzon

[Barn]

As someone said, some Leopards have had their way with Gorillas, but Silver back Gorillas and Fully grown Olive Baboons have kept even Lions at bay. The Olive Baboon fully grown has incredible fans and intelligence, if they fight a leopard they know how to attack the vulnerable areas, a wounded leopard is a useless predator, hence, many will think twice before fighting a formidible opponent even a honey badger and certainly Hyenas.

You see in Youtube there is this back and forth rubbish about how the Hyenas has the advantage in crushing power, their teeth can crush the bones of an elephant. But the Leopard has the claws and agility, but those canine anywhere inside a leopard will be too much.

Monzon vs Hagler, depends which Hagler and which Monzon? Assuming both are in their prime, i would pick Monzon in a 12 round bout, in a 15 round bout that i pick Hagler, because Hagler tends to pick it up in late rounds (antefuermo 1 being one of the few exceptions). It may sound like ducking, but look at the Duran fight, after 12 rounds the actual scorecards had Duran winning, but after Rounds 14 and 15, Hagler nicked the close win on the cards, i see the same pattern with Hagler vs Monzon. Both are granite chins, so i don't see either knocking the other out. Monzon was not knocked down into his 100th fight with Valdez, and hagler suffered one flash knockdown to Roldan(some say it was a slip).

Some say it was a slip?

Anyone with a pair eyes and a brain to compute the information say it was a slip.

[Barn]

Monzon is just too tall and has a too good jab for Hagler to get around him. And he'd grab and hold some too, which Hagler doesn't like. Not that he couldn't handle it, but his effectivity would get spurned. Hagler fought best against guys who came right at him. Monzon would box him from the distance. UD for Escopeta.

Besides, if 5'7 Duran could give Hagler fits, why couldn't the 6'1 Monzon (that 5'11 1/2 boxrec and other pages got him at is BS).

Stop referring to height lol.

Anyway, Hagler was not himself for the Duran fight, and anyone who has studied him knows it.

[Pastrano]

Stop referring to height lol.

Anyway, Hagler was not himself for the Duran fight, and anyone who has studied him knows it.

Not himself, yeah right. I heard that excuse before. Maybe he just was never that special and Duran exposed that? Don't get me wrong, I like Hagler but some people have turned him into this SUPER LEGEND that he never was.

[joseph5620]

Stop referring to height lol.

Anyway, Hagler was not himself for the Duran fight, and anyone who has studied him knows it.

You beat me to that.

[joseph5620]

Not himself, yeah right. I heard that excuse before. Maybe he just was never that special and Duran exposed that? Don't get me wrong, I like Hagler but some people have turned him into this SUPER LEGEND that he never was.

You've said some illogical/******/ridiculous things before but if you're going to start questioning the legitimacy of Hagler you've bottomed out.



Just the other day you were calling Jeff fenech an ATG. But Hagler was nothing special? Yeah ok.

[IronDanHamza]

Not himself, yeah right. I heard that excuse before. Maybe he just was never that special and Duran exposed that? Don't get me wrong, I like Hagler but some people have turned him into this SUPER LEGEND that he never was.

You're selling Hagler incredibley short here.

Marvin Hagler was an exceptional Middleweight and quite frankly an exceptional fighter.

There is no dis*****g that.

[HaglerSteelChin]

Some say it was a slip?

Anyone with a pair eyes and a brain to compute the information say it was a slip.

Subjective, it was not a phantom punch, the punch landed on top of the head in an unusual place, could have been ruled a slip, but i have seen worse calls, where there is NO punch landed and yet ruled a knockdown, did u see the punch that knockdown Pacquiao in the first Barrera fight that was scored a knockdown?

[HaglerSteelChin]

Monzon is just too tall and has a too good jab for Hagler to get around him. And he'd grab and hold some too, which Hagler doesn't like. Not that he couldn't handle it, but his effectivity would get spurned. Hagler fought best against guys who came right at him. Monzon would box him from the distance. UD for Escopeta.

Besides, if 5'7 Duran could give Hagler fits, why couldn't the 6'1 Monzon (that 5'11 1/2 boxrec and other pages got him at is BS).

Some guys like Marcos Geraldo used their height well early against Hagler, but he eventually figuers them out with good timing and going to the easier target the body.

However, I agree Monzon was excellent in using his reach and would have given Hagler problems, but remember another bald fighter called Bennie Briscoe who was the same height as Hagler about 5 feet 9 fought Monzon to a draw, and the fight was in Argentina giving Monzon home advantage, i saw portions of it, but never saw the complete fight available, so won't called it a gift draw as some who saw it said it was.

[fitefanSHO]

Hagler was what he claimed he was, the greatest Middleweight Champion of all time.

[Barn]

Not himself, yeah right. I heard that excuse before. Maybe he just was never that special and Duran exposed that? Don't get me wrong, I like Hagler but some people have turned him into this SUPER LEGEND that he never was.

Hagler was nervous for that fight and played it safe the whole way through not really taking much risks until the last few rounds where he dominated.