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  • #21
    Originally posted by Barnburner View Post
    I would have said Gorilla vs Leopard = Leapord UD. Possible late stoppage, yet the gorilla has monster power.

    Larry Holmes vs Eaarnie Shavers.
    haha That be some nasty ass ***** to watch too. I'd love to see the gorilla just grip the motha****er up and throw em 30 feet away haha. Them tigers got the endurance but if that motha****er can grip em up their done!

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    • #22
      Originally posted by Natedatpkid View Post
      haha That be some nasty ass ***** to watch too. I'd love to see the gorilla just grip the motha****er up and throw em 30 feet away haha. Them tigers got the endurance but if that motha****er can grip em up their done!
      Look what I found haha.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HP-6wG_wZ8A

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      • #23
        Id favour Monzon too win 2 of a 3 fight series,each fight being very close and going the distance obviously,difficult one though,anyone feel they might cancel each other out completely and the fight would be slightly dull?

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        • #24
          Originally posted by Barnburner View Post
          hahaha too bad that wasn't real. It was still pretty dope though. I love the one comment I saw on there "thats called **** in some states" hahah that had me dyin'.

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          • #25
            monzon makes it boring and would be able to be effective with his jab at a slightly greater distance. marv might dial it up late and make it a bit more fun, but monzon had the art deflating a fight down to a science

            contrary to popular theory i dont think hagler would simply try and grind his way inside the way briscoe did on monzon.
            he could do a lot more than that
            he would be quicker to the punch than monzon at a medium distance as well, where he was a very good puncher and very underated in his subtleties about slipping punches


            i think hagler tries to go in and out and use his legs
            throw combinations
            and then get back outside again and get back to hitting angles
            if he got too close to monzon he'd run into a better puncher with as sturdy of a chin

            he probably could ... but would he need to?




            close fight
            might even be a split decision depending on who is judging.


            but here's a massachusetts guy giving a slight edge to monzon to score more points

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            • #26
              Originally posted by them_apples View Post
              I see Hagler beating Monzon. Monzon is a very tough fighter with the natural ability to time punches and was very relaxed in the ring but Hagler in my books is the superior athlete and possesses more skill and even more heart.
              I like them apples.

              Hagler > Monzon

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              • #27
                Originally posted by Natedatpkid View Post
                haha That be some nasty ass ***** to watch too. I'd love to see the gorilla just grip the motha****er up and throw em 30 feet away haha. Them tigers got the endurance but if that motha****er can grip em up their done!
                A siberian tiger outweighs a Male Silverback by about 300-400 lbs. It would be no contest.

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                • #28
                  As someone said, some Leopards have had their way with Gorillas, but Silver back Gorillas and Fully grown Olive Baboons have kept even Lions at bay. The Olive Baboon fully grown has incredible fans and intelligence, if they fight a leopard they know how to attack the vulnerable areas, a wounded leopard is a useless predator, hence, many will think twice before fighting a formidible opponent even a honey badger and certainly Hyenas.

                  You see in Youtube there is this back and forth rubbish about how the Hyenas has the advantage in crushing power, their teeth can crush the bones of an elephant. But the Leopard has the claws and agility, but those canine anywhere inside a leopard will be too much.

                  Monzon vs Hagler, depends which Hagler and which Monzon? Assuming both are in their prime, i would pick Monzon in a 12 round bout, in a 15 round bout that i pick Hagler, because Hagler tends to pick it up in late rounds (antefuermo 1 being one of the few exceptions). It may sound like ducking, but look at the Duran fight, after 12 rounds the actual scorecards had Duran winning, but after Rounds 14 and 15, Hagler nicked the close win on the cards, i see the same pattern with Hagler vs Monzon. Both are granite chins, so i don't see either knocking the other out. Monzon was not knocked down into his 100th fight with Valdez, and hagler suffered one flash knockdown to Roldan(some say it was a slip).

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by them_apples View Post
                    A siberian tiger outweighs a Male Silverback by about 300-400 lbs. It would be no contest.
                    about 200 pounds difference on average

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                    • #30
                      Monzon is just too tall and has a too good jab for Hagler to get around him. And he'd grab and hold some too, which Hagler doesn't like. Not that he couldn't handle it, but his effectivity would get spurned. Hagler fought best against guys who came right at him. Monzon would box him from the distance. UD for Escopeta.

                      Besides, if 5'7 Duran could give Hagler fits, why couldn't the 6'1 Monzon (that 5'11 1/2 boxrec and other pages got him at is BS).

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