Roy Jones on his place in history

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  • Check_hooks
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    #31
    Roy Jones had power WITH speed. There are two kinds of power. Thudding power like Foreman or Margarito and speed power like Pacquiao or Bruce Lee. Speed power is more dangerous because its the punch you don't see coming that hurts the most.

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    • AKATheMack
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      #32
      I think its safe to assume he meant at his best not at 35 years old. Some posters may have been confused.

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      • joseph5620
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        #33
        Originally posted by IMDAZED
        Why do people act as if the Tarver KO occurred when Roy was 28? He was 35, 50+ fights and nearly 15 years in to his professional career. After a long, storied amateur career. He began fighting when he was still in single digits. Why use that version of Jones to compare him against anyone? How about the 1998 Jones? Who could beat that?
        Good question. Maybe because they know if they used a prime Jones they might be forced to admit he has a point.

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        • $Bullsfam$
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          #34
          Originally posted by RFPROBOX
          roy jones is a fraud with a glass jaw. he always was and always will be. I called this back in his shuck and jive chicken dancing days. he shouldn't even dream about mentioning Gene Tunneys name. THAT was a real boxer with skills and technique. not some undisciplined illiterate fighter who relied on some moves and quick reflexes like a Jones, Mayweather, Ali. Leonard. If you don't study the game you'll flunk out in the end. case and point: Jones. look how all those fighters ended up when they lost the reflexes? Boy Mayweather is next.
          hahahaha I think this is an obvious Earl Hickney alt or Soir.

          Mayweather relying on pure speed and reflex? Ali? Obvious troll. Mayweather is probably the best defensive boxer in boxing histroy although I don't like him because of...him really.

          Roy in his prime although I don't think he beats them as easy as he says it, would give ANYBODY a damn good fight in his prime. I don't think anybody beats him as easy as Tarver or Johnson just because he was old. The only problem is time. We can't see it which sucks but Roy Jones may not have the resume of a top 25 ATG but I think it's a pretty well known fact he easily had the talent of one. If only he had the quality opponents.

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          • Holtol
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            #35
            I never believed Roy Jones was as great as some people thought and Roy himself. I was allways frustrated by the level of his opponents while watching his career. For Roy Jones to think he would beat great boxers because he is faster I don't agree with either. He was still the faster boxer when Tarver and Johnson beat him. I think hand speed is an overated attribute because it is so obivous to see. Imo Roy Jones is overated because of his hand speed.

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            • Vadrigar.
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              #36
              Originally posted by sonnyboy
              Antonio Tarver springs to mind KO2
              The move up to HW took a lot out of Roy so he was past prime and he beat Tarver the first time too.

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              • Vadrigar.
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                #37
                Originally posted by NChristo
                Not really on his place in History, it's just on if he thinks he could beat the great past Light Heavies and all he answers is "I'm too quick, speed".

                Imo Spinks and Charles beat him out of those named, not sure on Foster.
                Well, discussing how he would match up against them does in include his place in history.

                I think you know that Roy didn't just have speed.

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                • SCtrojansbaby
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Natedatpkid
                  We can't see it which sucks but Roy Jones may not have the resume of a top 25 ATG but I think it's a pretty well known fact he easily had the talent of one. If only he had the quality opponents.

                  That is crap, Roy had the quality opponents but people choose to ignore them because he didn't fight in the 50s or whatever.

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                  • Barn
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                    #39
                    If you all agree with Roy Jones, then Meldrick Taylor should be the GOAT but, wasted it.

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                    • Barn
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Natedatpkid
                      hahahaha I think this is an obvious Earl Hickney alt or Soir.

                      Mayweather relying on pure speed and reflex? Ali? Obvious troll. Mayweather is probably the best defensive boxer in boxing histroy although I don't like him because of...him really.

                      Roy in his prime although I don't think he beats them as easy as he says it, would give ANYBODY a damn good fight in his prime. I don't think anybody beats him as easy as Tarver or Johnson just because he was old. The only problem is time. We can't see it which sucks but Roy Jones may not have the resume of a top 25 ATG but I think it's a pretty well known fact he easily had the talent of one. If only he had the quality opponents.
                      I nearly threw up when you said Mayweather is the best defensive boxer in history.

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