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  • Foreman wasn't like Joe Louis, where he could unleash some missile from either hand that just took a guy out right then and there, but.....

    I don't think there's ever been a heavier-handed fighter in history. He could hurt you with any punch, even ones that looked like they didn't have much mustard on them. His left jab alone had more heft on it than a lot of fighter's hooks and crosses.
    Last edited by jabsRstiff; 04-08-2011, 11:19 AM. Reason: mistake

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    • Originally posted by Spartacus Sully View Post
      when you impact some ones head the head moves before the brain causing the brain to hit the walls of the head causing the person to go unconscious. when you push someone, the head the brain they all move as one.....there is no brain slamming into the side of the head causing some one to go unconscious when your punches only push.
      Foreman punched not pushed, it's clear from the footage. Yes he was slow but very powerful. As I said before if Foreman pushed, his opponents wouldn't be in the condition they were at the end of the fight.

      how many times did foreman leave his opponent on the ground unconscious for the whole 10?
      Makes no difference as scott has already pointed out. What you said does not negate his punching power which is the point we were discussing.

      26 times he actually got a KO. he could punch.......but one hardest hitting heavy weights...LOL
      He has 68 Ko's that's a fact. This combined with watching footage of his fights clearly shows he is one of the hardest hitting heavyweights. It's LOL at you and absurd to think otherwise.

      BTW someone recently posted footage of Foreman knocking someone out with a jab. Watch if you dare. (if you haven't already)
      Last edited by Vadrigar.; 04-08-2011, 04:33 PM.

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      • lol, I hate how people use only old school fighters to try to prove that they know boxing... Roy jones, Mayweather and Even PAC deserve a spot on thier. i mean come on Duran greater than RJJ, May/PAC? F@ck you teddy

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        • Originally posted by mikeyh1015 View Post
          lol, I hate how people use only old school fighters to try to prove that they know boxing... Roy jones, Mayweather and Even PAC deserve a spot on thier. i mean come on Duran greater than RJJ, May/PAC? F@ck you teddy
          You do know Duran has one of the most impressive resumes in the history of boxing, correct? With a win over someone who is quite arguably a top 10 ATG? And that he has beaten noteworthy competition from 130lbs to 168lbs, over 4 decades?

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          • Originally posted by mikeyh1015 View Post
            lol, I hate how people use only old school fighters to try to prove that they know boxing... Roy jones, Mayweather and Even PAC deserve a spot on thier. i mean come on Duran greater than RJJ, May/PAC? F@ck you teddy
            Duran is greater than Jones Jr., Mayweather, and Pacquiao combined.

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            • Originally posted by Spartacus Sully View Post
              why didnt foreman ko ali if foreman was so powerful?
              Because a great chin beats a great punch. End of story. It's one of the oldest boxing maxims out there. Cobb Vs. Shavers, LaMotta Vs. Satterfield, ect. ect. ect.

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              • Originally posted by poet682006 View Post
                Because a great chin beats a great punch. End of story. It's one of the oldest boxing maxims out there. Cobb Vs. Shavers, LaMotta Vs. Satterfield, ect. ect. ect.

                Poet
                And Hearns vs Duran, Tyson vs. Holmes. Hell even Jack Daniels packs a wallop. He's knocked me out more than once.

                Err.. Cough...

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                • Originally posted by BattlingNelson View Post
                  And Hearns vs Duran, Tyson vs. Holmes. Hell even Jack Daniels packs a wallop. He's knocked me out more than once.

                  Err.. Cough...
                  I wasn't aware Duran had a great chin at that weight. Lightweight yes, Junior-Middle or Welter? I doubt it. In the Holmes fight the referee waved it off before Holmes hit the canvas (moot since the 3 KD rule was in effect for that fight I believe) so not really a great example. A better one would have been Shavers KOing Holmes.....but of course that didn't happen did it?

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                  • Originally posted by poet682006 View Post
                    I wasn't aware Duran had a great chin at that weight. Lightweight yes, Junior-Middle or Welter? I doubt it. In the Holmes fight the referee waved it off before Holmes hit the canvas (moot since the 3 KD rule was in effect for that fight I believe) so not really a great example. A better one would have been Shavers KOing Holmes.....but of course that didn't happen did it?

                    Poet
                    Durans chin was still good enough to take Hagler 15 at MW, but Hearns was just this phenomenal puncher.

                    Holmes was in a coma when Cortez ripped out his mouthshield. KTFO. Out-of-body experience.

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                    • Originally posted by BattlingNelson View Post
                      Durans chin was still good enough to take Hagler 15 at MW, but Hearns was just this phenomenal puncher.

                      Holmes was in a coma when Cortez ripped out his mouthshield. KTFO. Out-of-body experience.
                      Yeah, he was in such a coma that within a few seconds of hitting the canvas he was telling Giachetti "Richie get me off the Goddamned floor" since he had a mob of people around him keeping him down :rolleyes9:

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