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  • #41
    The standard is extreamly high heck I don't think IMO the 2nd best Mexican fighter ever(Barrera) has even been mentioned.

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    • #42
      Finito baby!!!!

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      • #43
        Bump.
        Feast your eyes on these two Mexican legends.

        Salvador "Chava" Sanchez
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFCvazd6AVU

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYuN6YmH_jw

        Ricardo "El Finito" Lopez

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQfc58XeQXQ

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cc0A_e8-DKI

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        • #44
          I been a hard core boxing fan since 1973 and these two were as good as I've ever seen. Both could outbox boxers and outpunch punchers. Lopez was soooooo dominate, always in shape, and rarely lost rounds let alone a fight. The real tradgedy was Sanchez. My dad and I argue about it all the time but I think he handles Arguello. We both agree Pedroza(while a good fighter) was not in his league. His future had no limits

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          • #45
            Originally posted by Boxing Bob View Post
            I been a hard core boxing fan since 1973 and these two were as good as I've ever seen. Both could outbox boxers and outpunch punchers. Lopez was soooooo dominate, always in shape, and rarely lost rounds let alone a fight. The real tradgedy was Sanchez. My dad and I argue about it all the time but I think he handles Arguello. We both agree Pedroza(while a good fighter) was not in his league. His future had no limits
            Hi Bob, just my opinion but do you not think Pat Cowdell's performance against Sanchez takes something away from Sanchez legacy. what i mean is Cowdell should never have been able to take Sanchez to a close decision on foreign soil like he did if Sanchez was the world-beater he is portrayed as being. IMO Sanchez gets rather over rated by boxing fans and i simply cannot go along with you in that he would beat Arguello going on his performances against Cowdell, Juan Laporte, Pat Ford & Garcia.

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            • #46
              Originally posted by Quarry View Post
              Hi Bob, just my opinion but do you not think Pat Cowdell's performance against Sanchez takes something away from Sanchez legacy. what i mean is Cowdell should never have been able to take Sanchez to a close decision on foreign soil like he did if Sanchez was the world-beater he is portrayed as being. IMO Sanchez gets rather over rated by boxing fans and i simply cannot go along with you in that he would beat Arguello going on his performances against Cowdell, Juan Laporte, Pat Ford & Garcia.
              Cowdell fight was nowhere near as close as the split decision indicates (how anyone could have Cowdell winning that fight is beyond me), Sanchez clearly won that fight (I think I scored about 10 rounds for him), Cowdell wasn't terrible either, though he wasn't suppose to do that well. I do agree that he is overrated by a lot of people, but that was naturally going to happen considering his short life. I think the Nelson fight was also an indicator of him being overrated, JMO though.

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              • #47
                Quarry, I must admit I've never seen the Cowdell fight, but doing some research the judge for Cowdell only had him winning by 1 pt, while the other two had Sanchez by 6 and 11 pts. Still I would have thought he would have taken Cowdell out.

                Rueben, IMO the Nelson fight confirms Sanchez's greatness not takes away from it!

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by Boxing Bob View Post
                  Quarry, I must admit I've never seen the Cowdell fight, but doing some research the judge for Cowdell only had him winning by 1 pt, while the other two had Sanchez by 6 and 11 pts. Still I would have thought he would have taken Cowdell out.
                  It wasn't even a close fight IMO, anyone that had Cowdell winning or just losing is an idiot if you ask me...

                  Rueben, IMO the Nelson fight confirms Sanchez's greatness not takes away from it!
                  Nelson was a 13 fight novice and had fought no one at that point in his career, and took the fight on less than 2 weeks notice and he took a great like Sanchez to the brink....it really confirms Nelsons greatness if you ask me.

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                  • #49
                    Sanchez vs Nelson confirms that both of them were great. excellent fight.

                    While its very true that Nelson was unprepared and a little green, he was still an excellent fighter, all you have to do is watch their fight to know that. And Sanchez was still really young, he could have gotten better from that point.

                    Had Sanchez and Nelson II happened, I think that fight would have been a toss up.

                    Sanchez probably would have burnt out quickly...he was fighting HOF fighters and top ranked guys on the regular, and over long bouts, and at a young age. but it would have been a hell of a ride.

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by Steak View Post
                      Sanchez vs Nelson confirms that both of them were great. excellent fight.

                      While its very true that Nelson was unprepared and a little green, he was still an excellent fighter, all you have to do is watch their fight to know that. And Sanchez was still really young, he could have gotten better from that point.

                      Had Sanchez and Nelson II happened, I think that fight would have been a toss up.

                      Sanchez probably would have burnt out quickly...he was fighting HOF fighters and top ranked guys on the regular, and over long bouts, and at a young age. but it would have been a hell of a ride.


                      Only 13 fights is more than a little green when you're thrown in a championship fight. Sanchez was one of the best fighters in the world at the time and you don't see that type of situation today with the way fighters are protected. Julio Cesar Chavez jr has had probably close to 50 fights and still has yet to face a real threat.



                      I think Sanchez would have continued to be a great fighter but that fight with Nelson says far more for Nelson than it does for Sanchez. Sanchez had already beaten Danny Little Red Lopez and Wilfredo Gomez. Beating a replacement with 13 pro fights doesn't add to that IMO.

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