Sam Langford said Dempsey was the greatest fighter he ever seen

[sonnyboyx2]

Dempsey had it all.. bobing & weaving was invented by him

[Holtol]

That video shows a different side of Dempsy then I have seen in other videos. But I have not watched much video of him. He has better head movment in that video then I remember.

[Spartacus Sully]

Levinsky, Sharkey and Carpentier, are NOT greats. ATGs are an elite-class of only 20 or so fighters and most boxers only meet 1 or 2 during their lifetime. Of the 3 ATGs that existed in Dempsey's era, he only fought Tunney and failed!

but they are hall of famers along with gibbons willard and miskey

[sonnyboyx2]

but they are hall of famers along with gibbons willard and miskey

Joeyzagz is waiting his moment to claim Calzaghe & Lewis would both destroy Dempsey because they defeated every man they ever got in the ring with and would be just Too Big.

[Joeyzagz]

Joeyzagz is waiting his moment to claim Calzaghe & Lewis would both destroy Dempsey because they defeated every man they ever got in the ring with and would be just Too Big.

Calzaghe is the same height as Dempsey, and only 15 lbs lighter.

If MW Greb and LHW Tunney were able to trouble him I dont see Joe having any problems whatsoever.

Merry Christmas

[sonnyboyx2]

Calzaghe is the same height as Dempsey, and only 15 lbs lighter.

If MW Greb and LHW Tunney were able to trouble him I dont see Joe having any problems whatsoever.

Merry Christmas

lol... i knew it

[Spartacus Sully]

Calzaghe is the same height as Dempsey, and only 15 lbs lighter.

If MW Greb and LHW Tunney were able to trouble him I dont see Joe having any problems whatsoever.

Merry Christmas

calhagze dosnt have the foot work or the chin that tunney had.

[Barn]

calhagze dosnt have the foot work or the chin that tunney had.

It takes a real master like Tunney to weather the Jack Dempsey storm.

[Great John L]

Levinsky, Sharkey and Carpentier, are NOT greats. ATGs are an elite-class of only 20 or so fighters and most boxers only meet 1 or 2 during their lifetime. Of the 3 ATGs that existed in Dempsey's era, he only fought Tunney and failed!

To say Dempsey wouldve beaten Wills or any of the other top contenders is speculation. A lot of informed historians thought Dempsey would beat Tunney and look what happened there.

Dempsey is nothing more than the Mike Tyson of the 1920's. Exciting fighter to watch, but cant win when paired against another ELITE boxer.

Lol at can't win gaainst an elite boxer. That's ridiculous. You gloss over everything that matters. Like you say Mike Tyson couldn't beat an "elite" Lennox Lewis when Mike was old and shot and nuts out of his mind. I guess Ali can't handle an "elite" Boxer because he lost to Holmes. Actually, he can't even handle bums because he lost to Spinks. Same with Louis. He must be terrible because the "elite" Charles outpointed him. Never mind that both were at the end of their careers agaisnt much more fit and prepared fighters than them. Losing to an elite boxer, Tunney, in the LAST FIGHTS OF HIS CAREER, suddenly makes him a bad boxer?

Sharkey, Carpentier, Levinsky are not ATG's? They were all great fighters, champions at one ponit or another, and are all in the Hall of Fame. Dempsey also beat all the good black boxers with little effort. He gave George Godfrey's, who gave Wills tough fights, hell, breaking his ribs and destroying sparring partners with regularity.

You seem to like to gloss over that Jack hadn't fought for 3 years while Tunney had been very active. You also forget that Tunney would have lost to Jack had it not been for the Long Count. Langford called Dempsey the greatest ever. As did so many boxing managers, fighters, historians in the first half of the 20th century. But I guess you're right and they are wrong because Dempsey supposedly never beat an Elite Boxer. Never mind that he beat the Heavyweight Champ who beat Jack Johnson, would've beat Tunney if not for the Long Count, beat Levinsky, beat Fred Fulton, who beat the "elite" Sam Langford, he beat Hall of Famer Carpentier, who had a disputed decision with Jeanette, he beat Sharkey, who was Heavyweight Champ and also a hall of famer. He has the most 1st round KOs in history.

The only arguement you are putting out is that Dempsey can't beat an ATG. You gloss over that he beat very good black boxers in sparring with utter ease, fought Tunney in the last fights of his career, and still would have won had it not been for the Long Count, and you seem to ignore that Dempsey beat great Hall of Fame fighters. But I guess they aren't "elite" enough. You call Demspey bad for losing fights at the end of his career. You call Tyson bad for losing at the end of his career. I guess you msut have to call Ali and Louis bad as well. Or Larry Holmes. You can't downgrade a fighter for events that happened at the end of their career. Especially Dempsey, sicne he would have beat the "elite" Tunney. You have to judge prime fightes, it's the only accurate way.

[sonnyboyx2]

Well said John L.