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I've got to say, huge huge credit to BloodyNate for calling the two huge upset's in the past 2 weeks.

He picked Kirkland to beat Angulo and Marquez to beat Pacquaio.

I would have genuinely bet 5 years worth of my yearly income that that wouldn't happen.

And look, he was right.

Major props, Nate.

The youngsters are stepping up guys! We need to step our game up.

Kirklands speed, aggression and heart is gonna be a major problem for anybody at middleweight but lara and Martinez are his biggest challenges i cant wait! I think thats why marquez and kirkland are my 2 favorite fighters since they get knocked down but get back up and put a beating on guys til they finish em. Kirkland with his violent offense and marquez in his vicious counterpunching.

The primetime Stream was very bias but it didnt take a rocket scientist to see marquez landed the head cracking punches. And pac ciuldnt even hurt marquez. Primetime was dumb with that too. Worst pac did was make marquez take a step back and regroup his
Position but marquez kept knocking his head back. Pac did land any real shots they were all glancing. It was like Sergio vs paul williams 1, before he took pauls ******ity in the rematch. Numbers do lie in these fights.

[BigStereotype]

Kirklands speed, aggression and heart is gonna be a major problem for anybody at middleweight but lara and Martinez are his biggest challenges i cant wait! I think thats why marquez and kirkland are my 2 favorite fighters since they get knocked down but get back up and put a beating on guys til they finish em. Kirkland with his violent offense and marquez in his vicious counterpunching.

The primetime Stream was very bias but it didnt take a rocket scientist to see marquez landed the head cracking punches. And pac ciuldnt even hurt marquez. Primetime was dumb with that too. Worst pac did was make marquez take a step back and regroup his
Position but marquez kept knocking his head back. Pac did land any real shots they were all glancing. It was like Sergio vs paul williams 1, before he took pauls ******ity in the rematch. Numbers do lie in these fights.

I think you might be more literally correct in that than you think. I want to go back over the fight and do my own punchstats - the "official" ones were shocking. While watching that fight, did you ever think Pacquiao was landing more punches?

[The Surgeon]

I think you might be more literally correct in that than you think. I want to go back over the fight and do my own punchstats - the "official" ones were shocking. While watching that fight, did you ever think Pacquiao was landing more punches?

I put very little stock into punch stats, apart from the fact they dont show the quality of shots, the effect they have or how clean they land, i just dont trust them to be accurate! I cant think of anything of the tp of my head but some fights ive seen i just CANT BELIEVE how little or how much a guy was landing according to the punchstats....

[The Surgeon]

Kirklands speed, aggression and heart is gonna be a major problem for anybody at middleweight but lara and Martinez are his biggest challenges i cant wait! I think thats why marquez and kirkland are my 2 favorite fighters since they get knocked down but get back up and put a beating on guys til they finish em. Kirkland with his violent offense and marquez in his vicious counterpunching.

The primetime Stream was very bias but it didnt take a rocket scientist to see marquez landed the head cracking punches. And pac ciuldnt even hurt marquez. Primetime was dumb with that too. Worst pac did was make marquez take a step back and regroup his
Position but marquez kept knocking his head back. Pac did land any real shots they were all glancing. It was like Sergio vs paul williams 1, before he took pauls ******ity in the rematch. Numbers do lie in these fights.

Id have loved all 30-60 seconds of a MW FIGHT between Kirkland and Nigel Benn.........

Seriously Great call on Kirkland vs Angulo - i thought Perro was a lock.

But as fun as JK is i cant see him doing much more, i'll pay to see him vs a Cotto or Canelo (He brings the ruckus!) but wont expect him to win

[BigStereotype]

Id have loved all 30-60 seconds of a MW FIGHT between Kirkland and Nigel Benn.........

Seriously Great call on Kirkland vs Angulo - i thought Perro was a lock.

But as fun as JK is i cant see him doing much more, i'll pay to see him vs a Cotto or Canelo (He brings the ruckus!) but wont expect him to win

That would have been a man-sized, bout no doubt about that. Benn would definitely get the better of him. Tough as Kirkland may be, his chin is just wretched.

[New England]

Id have loved all 30-60 seconds of a MW FIGHT between Kirkland and Nigel Benn.........

Seriously Great call on Kirkland vs Angulo - i thought Perro was a lock.

But as fun as JK is i cant see him doing much more, i'll pay to see him vs a Cotto or Canelo (He brings the ruckus!) but wont expect him to win

benn would have cleaned his clock but man would it have be fun

kirklands got fast hands too, so you know he'd get a few licks in and maybe even shake benn briefly

[New England]

if manny is the number one WW according to ring magazine why the hell isnt marquez ranked in their top ten now?

what the phuck

[The Surgeon]

benn would have cleaned his clock but man would it have be fun

kirklands got fast hands too, so you know he'd get a few licks in and maybe even shake benn briefly

Benn is better in every department and my clear pick to win (u never know tho...) but its all about the sheer Fury they'd bring between them - Barkley vs Benn anyone???

[DarkTerror88]

I cannot wait for Martinez to pick apart Chavez jr. I thought.the stoppage was too early and I appreciate from Mamfredo the courage to want to keep going against a man who has all the advantages over you.

[Scott9945]

I cannot wait for Martinez to pick apart Chavez jr. I thought.the stoppage was too early and I appreciate from Mamfredo the courage to want to keep going against a man who has all the advantages over you.

This fight was totally unworthy of being on HBO. Manfredo isn't half as good as the guy who Junior beat for the title. Next weeks card ain't too great either.