Who was the best OVERALL puncher in the sport ever?

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  • SBleeder
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    #21
    Originally posted by jrosales13
    P4P? Jimmy Wilde all time
    This man knows his stuff.

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      #22
      Originally posted by SBleeder
      This man knows his stuff.
      Yeah he does. jrosales is a good poster and we really could use posting in Boxing History more.

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      • Greatest1942
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        #23
        Jimmy Wilde is also #3 in Rings best punchers list. Tyson was a great ATG puncher , I do not have him in my top 10 heavy's list but I do have him in my top 10 ATG great heavy punchers list and a case may be made of him being in the top 5. But the best is Joe Louis. Sonny Liston was a great heavy puncher too but p4p I believe he could not be the tops.

        And please dont label Sugar Ray a wild puncher he was anything but that...Everyone in some stage in their career in one or two fights has done some wild punching, but that doesnot make them a wild puncher overall. And He was the #11 puncher in the rings list and I think he deserves to be there. He could throw great combination, had good one shot power. What is the basis of him being labelled a wild puncher? He did not connect with everything he threw?
        However my top 5 are
        1)Joe Louis-- No explanations needed
        2)Bob Fitzsimsons --First middle weight champ to be heavy champ.Think of a middle weight knocking out heavy's not once or twice but regularly
        3)Sam Langford --> Same as Bob.
        4)Jimmy Wilde --Like I mentioned previously his record speaks for itself.
        5)Jack Dempsey --The job he did on Willard,Fulton while being outweighed regularly makes me put him here.

        There are a ton of others I struggled to keep out of this list,but as I said before its hard to choose 10,5 or even 20 punchers from all the greats in the long history of this sports.

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          #24
          Originally posted by Greatest1942
          Jimmy Wilde is also #3 in Rings best punchers list. Tyson was a great ATG puncher , I do not have him in my top 10 heavy's list but I do have him in my top 10 ATG great heavy punchers list and a case may be made of him being in the top 5. But the best is Joe Louis. Sonny Liston was a great heavy puncher too but p4p I believe he could not be the tops.

          And please dont label Sugar Ray a wild puncher he was anything but that...Everyone in some stage in their career in one or two fights has done some wild punching, but that doesnot make them a wild puncher overall. And He was the #11 puncher in the rings list and I think he deserves to be there. He could throw great combination, had good one shot power. What is the basis of him being labelled a wild puncher? He did not connect with everything he threw?
          However my top 5 are
          1)Joe Louis-- No explanations needed
          2)Bob Fitzsimsons --First middle weight champ to be heavy champ.Think of a middle weight knocking out heavy's not once or twice but regularly
          3)Sam Langford --> Same as Bob.
          4)Jimmy Wilde --Like I mentioned previously his record speaks for itself.
          5)Jack Dempsey --The job he did on Willard,Fulton while being outweighed regularly makes me put him here.

          There are a ton of others I struggled to keep out of this list,but as I said before its hard to choose 10,5 or even 20 punchers from all the greats in the long history of this sports.
          Much of that comes from the fact that the only Robinson they've really seen is the ending of the second Turpin fight where Robinson was told by the ref he had only one more round before he stopped it for the cut and Ray was desparate to get Turpin out of there before that happend.

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            #25
            Originally posted by poet682006
            Much of that comes from the fact that the only Robinson they've really seen is the ending of the second Turpin fight where Robinson was told by the ref he had only one more round before he stopped it for the cut and Ray was desparate to get Turpin out of there before that happend.

            Poet
            .Everyone in some stage in their career in one or two fights has done some wild punching, but that doesnot make them a wild puncher overall.

            Exactly what I meant by the above quotes Poet. Ray was a brilliant puncher. And Ray had to stop Turpin (in his mind in one round) what do you expect him to do dance around and try to land jabs? Desperate times calls for desperate measure...May I suggest looking at Gene Fullmer's KO by Ray to prove how good a puncher he really was...
            The last left hook = Poetry in motion

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              #26
              Originally posted by Greatest1942
              .Everyone in some stage in their career in one or two fights has done some wild punching, but that doesnot make them a wild puncher overall.

              Exactly what I meant by the above quotes Poet. Ray was a brilliant puncher. And Ray had to stop Turpin (in his mind in one round) what do you expect him to do dance around and try to land jabs? Desperate times calls for desperate measure...May I suggest looking at Gene Fullmer's KO by Ray to prove how good a puncher he really was...
              The last left hook = Poetry in motion
              That's a great example. Another good one is the Graziano fight where he dissects and brutalizes a proven slugger.

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              • Greatest1942
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                #27
                Originally posted by Stones!
                That's just the biggest punchers list???

                Is it not?
                No its the best punchers list if it was biggest do you believe , Ray would have been before Tyson or Max Baer.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by poet682006
                  That's a great example. Another good one is the Graziano fight where he dissects and brutalizes a proven slugger.

                  Poet
                  yeah it was a great fight, a 3 round knockout of a great fighter and Graziano had a pretty good chin.

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                    #29
                    i don't know about best ever...but bob foster is one of my favorites.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by considerthis
                      i don't know about best ever...but bob foster is one of my favorites.
                      One of the most brutal finishes you'll ever see:

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