My Top 50 pound for pound.

[Bright-Eyes]

It is your list,but I don't understand George Foreman's ranking.Are you a big fan or something?

[Barn]

It is your list,but I don't understand George Foreman's ranking.Are you a big fan or something?

I looked in depth into his comeback period after I posted this list and it seems I rated it wayyy to high lol.

[Greatest1942]

Here goes after a lot of thought!

1. Sugar Ray Robinson
2. Henry Armstrong
3. Sam Langford
4. Harry Greb
5. Joe Louis
6. Willie Pep
7. Roberto Duran
8. Benny Leonard
9. Muhammad Ali
10. Bob Fitzsimmons
11. Joe Gans
12. Ezzard Charles
13. Gene Tunney
14. Archie Moore
15. Pernell Whittaker
16. Jimmy Wilde
17. Mickey Walker
18. Joe Walcott (og)
19. Stanley Ketchel
20. Julio Cesar Chavez
21. George Foreman
22. Tony Canzoneri
24. Barney Ross
25. Jack Johnson
26. Jimmy McLarlin
27. Marvin Hagler
28. Carlos Monzon
29. Sugar Ray Leonard
30. Sandy Saddler
31. Jose Napoles
32. Billy Conn
33. Marcel Cerdan
34. Ted Kid Lewis
35. Ruben Olivares
36. Eder Jofre
37. Terry McGovern
38. Alexis Arguello
39. Thomas Hearns
40. Rocky Marciano
41. Sonny Liston
42. Larry Holmes
43. **** Tiger
44. Ricardo Lopez
45. Carmen Basillo
46. Michael Spinks
47. Wlifred Benitez
48. Bernard Hopkins
49. Roy Jones Jr
50. James Toney

Wow lots of editing there lol but, finally finished what do you think

Wow!!! Great I can never make a top 20 P4P list. But anyways its a good list...Any list has its peculiarities as lists are ultimately personal no matter how objective you are. Your top 10 is close to mine though the orderings are a bit different may be.Props to you for the great effort.

[Greatest1942]

Ali has the better resume and ducked noone. Thats why hes greater than SRR.

Ali never got KOed by a Schmelling. Ever hear of Joe Louis' bum of the month club where he racked up his numerous defences. Ali would have broken that had he not been forced into exile.

Ali has more heart than Duran.

You have no idea about the Bum of the month club, they were no BUMS.
1)Max baer = BUM right????????????
2)Two Ton Galento = BUM right???????
3)LOU NOVA = BUM right
4)Buddy Baer = BUM right
5)Joe Walcott = BUM right
6)BILLLY CONN = BUM RIGHT
7)Arthuro Godoy = BUM RIGHT?

For your information:-
MAX BAER = #20 in Ring magazines The 50 Greatest Heavyweights of All-Time , #22 in best punchers list that means he is (#7,8 punchers in heavy list)
2)Two Ton Galento = You know whom Nat Fleisher said had the best left hook, take a wild guess.
3)LOU NOVA = Beat Max Baer, carrer of
Total fights 63
Wins 49
Wins by KO 31
Losses 9 Bum right if May weather beats #1,#2 contender easily they are bums right?

4)Buddy Baer =Look this bum up in youtube.
5)Joe Walcott = Ask anyone who actually knows Boxing history and they have him within the top 15 heavies of all time.In the Rings list he was #13..And by the by Ali got his shuffle from this BUM.

6)BILLLY CONN =All time great lightheavy always in the top 10 again by people who actually know, Holmes got actually beat by a light heavy...

7)Arthuro Godoy = Please if this a Bum who won 87 fights out of out of 124 with 12 draws never stopped before Louis who actually is not? Mayweather?


Joe Louis, even an old shot Joe Louis, a young inexperienced Joe Louis was never beaten by Neon Leon.
Leon Spinks = 26 wins, 17 losses and 3 draws as a professional

Max Schmelling= 56 wins , 10 losses 4 draws..#19 in the rings list of great heavies.

Besides Joe Louis he beat Jack Sharkey another HOF. WHO DID LEON EVER BEAT EXCEPT ALI?

See I love Ali and in a P4p sense you might say he is better than Louis, but when you dish others based on this and that to prove how great he was you are showing your ignorance, because EVERYONES CARRER CAN BE DISHED. Please answer something on facts.
And please the ring,IBRO knows more about boxing than you will ever have time to know.
You might say Max baer was never one of Louis's defenses I can show you others who were and still were no BUMS...Who knows if Louis fought for four years during the WW2 his record would not have stretched to 35 too? You are guessing and stating that as a fact.Ali might have lost in his 3 years and so could have LOuis, they both lost a lot of time, so drop that 3 year **** please. The word BUM in 1940-50 wasn't used in the same derogatory way as it is today. And fighters who were ranked contenders are no BUMS...It was just stated to make fun...If #1,#2 contenders are BUM then every every heavy or light heavy has beaten bums and must be made to fight #80, #90 opponents.

[JAB5239]

How has Ross beaten much better fighters?

Only one of those fighters Canzoneri you mention is an ATG.

McLarnin is an all time great.

Floyd has Castillo, Mosley, DLH, Corrales and JMM who are all at the very least HOFers.

Mosley an DLH were past prime and not even close to the fighters they once were. JMM was forced to come up 2 divisions after being a career featherweight and Floyd still cam in above the contracted weight. These are hardly impressive wins in my opinion. Canzoneri and McLarnin are WAY better than Castillo and Corrales.

Mayweather has won titles in every divison Ross did. Mayweather beat the best at 130 Corrales, 135 Castillo, 140 Hatton ducked him but Floyd later beat him at 147 where Hatton was a champ also, 147 Judah, Mosley, Baldomir all WW champs. 154 DLH was regarded the best champion at this weight at the times. If there was only 1 champion in a weight class Floyd would still be a 5 weight champion.

You're blowing up Floyds comp without knowing anything of Ross'. Like I said my man, you need to brush up on your history.

[Tyson.]

You have no idea about the Bum of the month club, they were no BUMS.
1)Max baer = BUM right????????????
2)Two Ton Galento = BUM right???????
3)LOU NOVA = BUM right
4)Buddy Baer = BUM right
5)Joe Walcott = BUM right
6)BILLLY CONN = BUM RIGHT
7)Arthuro Godoy = BUM RIGHT?

For your information:-
MAX BAER = #20 in Ring magazines The 50 Greatest Heavyweights of All-Time , #22 in best punchers list that means he is (#7,8 punchers in heavy list)
2)Two Ton Galento = You know whom Nat Fleisher said had the best left hook, take a wild guess.
3)LOU NOVA = Beat Max Baer, carrer of
Total fights 63
Wins 49
Wins by KO 31
Losses 9 Bum right if May weather beats #1,#2 contender easily they are bums right?

They were bums talent wise. They may have been ranked but it was a bad era. Frazier, Foreman, Tyson, Ali, Holmes, Lewis, Bowe Holyfield etc would all had similar success to Louis in that era. The difference being they wouldnt get knocked down multiple times and almost lose to someone who weighed in as a LHW on fight night.

You're blowing up Floyds comp without knowing anything of Ross'. Like I said my man, you need to brush up on your history.

I think your vastly overrating fighters from the past. McLarnin is not an ATG. Funny you rating him as an ATG then criticizing Floyd for fighting JMM when Mclarnin fought his fair share of LWs at WW.

Ross hasnt really achieved anything Floyd hasnt. If Floyds not top 50 then neithers Ross.

[JAB5239]

I think your vastly overrating fighters from the past. McLarnin is not an ATG. Funny you rating him as an ATG then criticizing Floyd for fighting JMM when Mclarnin fought his fair share of LWs at WW.

Ross hasnt really achieved anything Floyd hasnt. If Floyds not top 50 then neithers Ross.

You have GOT to be kidding, right? If it wasn't for Ross' better h2h record against McLarnin I would rate Jimmy higher. With wins over *Leonard, *LaBarba, *Villa, *Ambers, *Canzoneri, *Taylor, Singer, Fuller, *Corbett III and *Ross Jimmy McLarnin beat a who's who of fighters from his era and has one of the most impressive resumes ever. The guys with asterisks in front of their names are hall of famers and thats just the ones I know of.

Ross beat better fighters than Floyd. I never said Floyd wasn't top 50. But he certainly isn't close to being within the top 25 because of his relatively weak resume compared to other greats. This is not an assumption, this is a fact.

[NChristo]

With wins over *Leonard, *LaBarba, *Villa, *Ambers, *Canzoneri, *Taylor, Singer, Fuller, *Corbett III and *Ross Jimmy McLarnin beat a who's who of fighters from his era and has one of the most impressive resumes ever..

Add Kid Kaplan and Jackie Fields to that list as well, 2 more HOFers with great careers.

[JAB5239]

Add Kid Kaplan and Jackie Fields to that list as well, 2 more HOFers with great careers.

Good looking out!

[StarshipTrooper]

You have GOT to be kidding, right? If it wasn't for Ross' better h2h record against McLarnin I would rate Jimmy higher. With wins over *Leonard, *LaBarba, *Villa, *Ambers, *Canzoneri, *Taylor, Singer, Fuller, *Corbett III and *Ross Jimmy McLarnin beat a who's who of fighters from his era and has one of the most impressive resumes ever. The guys with asterisks in front of their names are hall of famers and thats just the ones I know of.

Ross beat better fighters than Floyd. I never said Floyd wasn't top 50. But he certainly isn't close to being within the top 25 because of his relatively weak resume compared to other greats. This is not an assumption, this is a fact.

See what I mean about this guy being a troll? He just comes in here to trash past greats since he feels them a threat to his personal favorite's all-time standing.

Poet