My Top 50 pound for pound.

[Barn]

Hagler is better than SRL who had to wait till after prime hagler to actually want to fight him

Your wrong there...
P4P Sugar Ray Leonard is better he won championships in many weight classes but, I rank him lower because of his antics he used to give him every advantage and the gift of decisions he got (Notable Hearns II) He also only has 40 fights and it seems he has been aorund longer because of his four or so retirements. Which is why I rank Hagler a little higher.

[Tyson.]

Terrible list.

Ali not at number 1 is this a joke.

[Barn]

Terrible list.

Ali not at number 1 is this a joke.

OH NO! YOUR RIGHT HOW COULD I BE SO DAMN SILLY!!!
AND NOT INCLUDING MAYWEATHER WOW THAT'S TREASON AND... THE KLITCHKOS NOOO THEY WOULD DEFEAT EVERY HEAVYWEIGHT HOW COULD I FORGET THEM AT 2 AND 3.

Seriously man please.

[Tyson.]

OH NO! YOUR RIGHT HOW COULD I BE SO DAMN SILLY!!!
AND NOT INCLUDING MAYWEATHER WOW THAT'S TREASON AND... THE KLITCHKOS NOOO THEY WOULD DEFEAT EVERY HEAVYWEIGHT HOW COULD I FORGET THEM AT 2 AND 3.

Seriously man please.

Also lol at heroin junkie Barney Ross in your list.

Larry Holmes? based on him getting gift decisons over Witherspoon and Norton. Then almost getting KOed by shavers. The victory over a shot ali with parkinsons.

Hagler over Hopkins. Hopkins never lost to no welterweight, dont see him going 15 rounds with no lightweight either. Hopkins went up to LHW, Hagler never done that.

Excluding Mayweather is acceptable but include fighters who are actually better. Marciano never beat anyone as good as Castillo or Corrales. You mention the Klitshckos but if Marciano is in there you might as well include the Klitschkos.

Also why no Pacquiao?

["The Hitman"]

marvellous maybe your right bout srl and mmh but i thought haglers domination of the middleweight division as well as srl retiring then unretiring various times would rate hagler slightly better
HAHA no way is ali better than sugar ray robinson id rate him 6th after joe louis although that is more debatable than ali number 1 LOL

["The Hitman"]

Also lol at heroin junkie Barney Ross in your list.

Larry Holmes? based on him getting gift decisons over Witherspoon and Norton. Then almost getting KOed by shavers. The victory over a shot ali with parkinsons.

Hagler over Hopkins. Hopkins never lost to no welterweight, dont see him going 15 rounds with no lightweight either. Hopkins went up to LHW, Hagler never done that.

Excluding Mayweather is acceptable but include fighters who are actually better. Marciano never beat anyone as good as Castillo or Corrales. You mention the Klitshckos but if Marciano is in there you might as well include the Klitschkos.

Also why no Pacquiao?

i would say pacman has to go a bit further before involvement in the 50 best of all time
larry holmes gift decions aren't quite as 'gifted' as you claim IMO, also almost getting knocked out by shavers then going on to win the fight- more positive than negative don't ya think?

[Barn]

Also lol at heroin junkie Barney Ross in your list.

Larry Holmes? based on him getting gift decisons over Witherspoon and Norton. Then almost getting KOed by shavers. The victory over a shot ali with parkinsons.

Hagler over Hopkins. Hopkins never lost to no welterweight, dont see him going 15 rounds with no lightweight either. Hopkins went up to LHW, Hagler never done that.

Excluding Mayweather is acceptable but include fighters who are actually better. Marciano never beat anyone as good as Castillo or Corrales. You mention the Klitshckos but if Marciano is in there you might as well include the Klitschkos.

Also why no Pacquiao?

Even though Marcianos era was weak it is still greater than the Klitchko's era and Rocky still went unbeaten and he beat Jersey Joe Walcott (x2), Archie Moore, Ezzard Charles (x2) Joe Louis and Roland La Starza just to name a few all of those victories depite age differences are better than both Castillo or Corrales in my opinion.

Pacquiao is a 7 division chmp with most of those in the newly established weight classes which have very little difference of weight so it was easy for him.
I rate a 3 time weight class world champion of old over a 7 times weight class champion of today.

Barney Ross is a 3 weight division champion of old with an excellent record please refer to above. And calling him a heroin junkie is sweeping quite low considering he beat his addiction and gave lectures about the dangers of drugs.

Hagler is better than Hopkins because he fought better opposition in my opinion and avenged all blemishes on his record with brutal knockouts (excluding SRL)

[Barn]

i would say pacman has to go a bit further before involvement in the 50 best of all time
larry holmes gift decions aren't quite as 'gifted' as you claim IMO, also almost getting knocked out by shavers then going on to win the fight- more positive than negative don't ya think?

I agree with the Shavers analysis but, the other fights were VERY close but, it wasn't exactly what you would call an outrage.

["The Hitman"]

yeah i know they were close but not gifts in the way described as if he was being badly beaten but was given it by judges. Marvelous id say your top 50 is fairly accurate every boxing fan in the world has different opinion about top 50 except top few

[JAB5239]

Also lol at heroin junkie Barney Ross in your list.

You obviously know nothing of Ross' career, who he fought and how tough his era was. He is easily a top 25 all time fighter. His drug problems (due to injuries suffered in WWII) came after his career.