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  • #81
    Originally posted by smasher
    Green was an average fringe contender heavyweight. Tyson's body attack did nothing to wear down Green, take away his legs and set him up for a later rounds stoppage. The fact that Green went the distance without being stopped or floored late in the fight proves my point that Tyson's body attack did not sufficiently wear his opponents down. A truly effective body puncher would have at least one of those types of wins in a 21 year career.
    whatcha gotta say about the tyrell biggs fight then

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    • #82
      Originally posted by smasher
      Green was an average fringe contender heavyweight. Tyson's body attack did nothing to wear down Green, take away his legs and set him up for a later rounds stoppage. The fact that Green went the distance without being stopped or floored late in the fight proves my point that Tyson's body attack did not sufficiently wear his opponents down. A truly effective body puncher would have at least one of those types of wins in a 21 year career.

      she practically knocked down michael jack johnson with bodyshots, hector mercedes,spinks,bejamin. he did tko and knock down ppl with body shots ya know

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      • #83
        Originally posted by mystyal2k5
        she practically knocked down michael jack johnson with bodyshots, hector mercedes,spinks,bejamin. he did tko and knock down ppl with body shots ya know
        I'm not sure if English is your first language so this is the last time I'm going to explain it because either you are not reading my posts or you don't comprehend.

        A CONCENTRATED BODY ATTACK means round after round in a fight the boxer throws many punches to his opponents torso for the sole purpose of WEARING HIS OPPONENT DOWN LATE IN THE FIGHT.

        Teeing off on a guy with a mixed attack for an early rounds KO IS NOT A CONCENTRATED BODY ATTACK. It is utilized against a fighter to WEAR HIM DOWN.

        With Tyson's punching power do you not think he could have KO'd Tillis, Tucker, Smith, Green, Douglas, or Ruddock (rematch)if he had went more to the body and wore each opponent down?

        If you want to learn about the lost art of bodypunching, you'll never understand it by wasting your time watching Tyson-Tucker 30 times a month.

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        • #84
          your naming a few fights that he didnt do bodyshots to which every1 that saw the fight knows he didnt besides the green fight. i think he threw 27 bodyshots a round that fight and averaged 16 connects. if thats not conecntrating to the body then i dont know what is. cause i think tyson punches per round were like average 45 and connects i think were 27

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          • #85
            and i watch the tucker fight cause its a fight taht he didnt knock out the guy and the fight was very interesting to me so i analyze it since i do the peek a boo style of boxing. and it actuallly last long enoough for me to study

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            • #86
              Originally posted by mystyal2k5
              and i watch the tucker fight cause its a fight taht he didnt knock out the guy and the fight was very interesting to me so i analyze it since i do the peek a boo style of boxing. and it actuallly last long enoough for me to study
              If you are planning on copying Tyson's style and using it in a lighter weight category you might want think again unless you have exceptional handspeed and one punch KO power in either hand, two of Tyson's strengths which allowed him to be successful more so than his peekaboo style.

              Tyson had a decided physical edge against his opponents but keep in mind many of his opponents were overweight and slow in comparison. If you are fighting in a lighter weight division you can be guaranteed to be fighting guys that will not be overweight and slow and may be quicker, have a higher work rate or hit harder than you.

              Do not get caught up in only studying Tyson. He was an ex-champ at 24 and finished at 30. His style was not condusive to longevity.

              Tyson's style was not an adaptable one, unlike say Holyfield who could beat Tyson in-fighting, beat Bowe 2 and Foreman on the balls of his feet in and out, play the matador to the bull against Quawi or win as a counterpuncher against Douglas, or as the aggressor against Moorer 2.

              You need to study great P4P fighters in the smaller weight divisions. You look pretty short. Study fighters that were great on the inside, (Tyson is hardly considered a great in-fighter and the Tucker fight is an example) regularly worked the body, presented angles while counterpunching and keeping opponents off-balance. I would watch one Roberto Duran performance before I would watch 40 Tyson fights for an education in these attributes. Defensively I would also watch fighters like Duran, Pernell Whittaker or Wilfred Benitez. You don't have to mimic these guys exactly but watch, study and take what you can from them.

              Open your mind and good luck mystyal12k5.

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              • #87
                Originally posted by smasher
                If you are planning on copying Tyson's style and using it in a lighter weight category you might want think again unless you have exceptional handspeed and one punch KO power in either hand, two of Tyson's strengths which allowed him to be successful more so than his peekaboo style.

                Tyson had a decided physical edge against his opponents but keep in mind many of his opponents were overweight and slow in comparison. If you are fighting in a lighter weight division you can be guaranteed to be fighting guys that will not be overweight and slow and may be quicker, have a higher work rate or hit harder than you.

                Do not get caught up in only studying Tyson. He was an ex-champ at 24 and finished at 30. His style was not condusive to longevity.

                Tyson's style was not an adaptable one, unlike say Holyfield who could beat Tyson in-fighting, beat Bowe 2 and Foreman on the balls of his feet in and out, play the matador to the bull against Quawi or win as a counterpuncher against Douglas, or as the aggressor against Moorer 2.

                You need to study great P4P fighters in the smaller weight divisions. You look pretty short. Study fighters that were great on the inside, (Tyson is hardly considered a great in-fighter and the Tucker fight is an example) regularly worked the body, presented angles while counterpunching and keeping opponents off-balance. I would watch one Roberto Duran performance before I would watch 40 Tyson fights for an education in these attributes. Defensively I would also watch fighters like Duran, Pernell Whittaker or Wilfred Benitez. You don't have to mimic these guys exactly but watch, study and take what you can from them.

                Open your mind and good luck mystyal12k5.

                i have al of his fights but i jus watch the 80s tyson fights and do alot of thinks different then him. and i do have good hand speed and power in both hands. but i tend to make angles for myself

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                • #88
                  Originally posted by mystyal2k5
                  i have al of his fights but i jus watch the 80s tyson fights and do alot of thinks different then him. and i do have good hand speed and power in both hands. but i tend to make angles for myself
                  Good man. Good luck.

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                  • #89
                    Forget Tyson, all we can do is wonder about him. Yeah, he could have been one of the greatest, maybe, but he never beat a fighter of the calibre of the ones that beat him (when he was in the opinion of many past his prime), so unless someone goes back in time and prevents Cus D'Amato from dying, and kills Desiree Washington...

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                    • #90
                      But you still like my signature

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