where does the peak tyson fit in

[Verstyle]

First of all READ MY POST. I said The Ribalta fight was Tyson's ONLY STOPPAGE WIN PAST THE 7TH ROUND. Not too ****ing impressive when it was the only one in a career spanning the better part of 21 years. I also said he was not a CONCENTRATED BODY PUNCHER. Joe Frazier, Rocky Marciano, Roberto Duran, Alexis Arguello, Eusebio Pedroza, Julio Ceasar Chavez etc... were fighters who wore opponents down by focusing on a body attack. MIKE TYSON DID NOT FOCUS HIS ATTACK ON THE BODY. He was a headhunter. I never said he didn't punch to the body, just that he wasn't much of a body puncher meaning he didn't wear opponents down by going to the body.

As for not seeing enough Tyson fights you are dead wrong. I am the same age as Tyson and followed his entire career as well as taped ALL HIS FIGHTS. Over the last 21 years I have seen more than my share of Mike Tyson. The difference between us watching the fights is I know what I am watching and you apparently do not.

thats funny u say that. cause every1 on here knows how much i watch tyson. and not a concentrated body puncher pleassssssse.

[Verstyle]

sorry i didnt put up a good argument on the last 1 but i jus recieved bad news.

[smasher]

thats funny u say that. cause every1 on here knows how much i watch tyson. and not a concentrated body puncher pleassssssse.

What's funny? Just because you watch Tyson doesn't mean you understand him as a fighter or even the subtlties of boxing in general. A concentrated body puncher is someone who goes to the body repeatedly with the intention of wearing an opponent down. You should spend less time watching boring fights like Tyson-Tucker and instead watch Frazier-Quarry 1&2 to better undestand how a REAL BODYPUNCHER wears a man down.

[Southpaw16]

he might have had a longer reach but tyson was known to get in really good and quick with his foot speed and his superb defense

I would not say that Tyson had superb defense. He didn't get hit that often early in his career because opponents were too terrified to open up on him out of fear of getting countered, but his defense was never anything great.

[BKM-]

What's funny? Just because you watch Tyson doesn't mean you understand him as a fighter or even the subtlties of boxing in general. A concentrated body puncher is someone who goes to the body repeatedly with the intention of wearing an opponent down. You should spend less time watching boring fights like Tyson-Tucker and instead watch Frazier-Quarry 1&2 to better undestand how a REAL BODYPUNCHER wears a man down.

Then YOU should watch Tyson vs Green, where he demonstrated one of the worst beatingg i've seen on the body. Did you see that fight? He attacked the body over and over and Green felt sick afterwards. or his first few pro fights he wore them down on the body and the ref stopped it. Tyson was not a real body puncher as much annymore later in his career, but when he was young, he punished the body.

[BKM-]

I would not say that Tyson had superb defense. He didn't get hit that often early in his career because opponents were too terrified to open up on him out of fear of getting countered, but his defense was never anything great.

Are you kiddin me? Prime Tyson who bobbed and weaved was never ever seriously hurt. his opponents did throw a lot and didn' manage to counter and definitely not hit his chin because he protects it very good. He's one of the greatest underrated defensive fighter ever.

[smasher]

Then YOU should watch Tyson vs Green, where he demonstrated one of the worst beatingg i've seen on the body. Did you see that fight? He attacked the body over and over and Green felt sick afterwards. or his first few pro fights he wore them down on the body and the ref stopped it. Tyson was not a real body puncher as much annymore later in his career, but when he was young, he punished the body.

Green was an average fringe contender heavyweight. Tyson's body attack did nothing to wear down Green, take away his legs and set him up for a later rounds stoppage. The fact that Green went the distance without being stopped or floored late in the fight proves my point that Tyson's body attack did not sufficiently wear his opponents down. A truly effective body puncher would have at least one of those types of wins in a 21 year career.

[BKM-]

Green was an average fringe contender heavyweight. Tyson's body attack did nothing to wear down Green, take away his legs and set him up for a later rounds stoppage. The fact that Green went the distance without being stopped or floored late in the fight proves my point that Tyson's body attack did not sufficiently wear his opponents down. A truly effective body puncher would have at least one of those types of wins in a 21 year career.

Dude, he hurt him a lot of times, he slowed him down and Green backed off in the later rounds. He did wear him down on his body because Green was really **** in the later rounds.

The reason why Tyson rarely wore down opponents on the body is because hitting the head is more effective. Thats where the 44 KO's came from.

[moondog0]

Young Tyson was a very good defensive fighter because he was hard to hit with a jab. His hand speed and power were unbelievable, I think if Norton could break ali's jaw and hit him as much as he did while dragging his back foot around, and didn't have Tysons foot speed, hand speed, or defensive style, Tyson could have given Ali a run for his money.

[smasher]

Dude, he hurt him a lot of times, he slowed him down and Green backed off in the later rounds. He did wear him down on his body because Green was really **** in the later rounds.

The reason why Tyson rarely wore down opponents on the body is because hitting the head is more effective. Thats where the 44 KO's came from.

Tyson was no doubt a KO hitter but hitting the head is not more effective in a fight that goes late. Head-hunting for a hard puncher is effective for an early round KO but not later. That was a Tyson weakness and why he couldn't pull out late KO's over opponents that lasted past the first 5 round onslaught.

Hand speed, combination punching, power and quickness fades and landing a well timed KO punch late in a fight becomes increasingly more difficult. That is why a body attack pays huge dividends late in a fight.

Body punching is like investing money. You don't often see the return immediately but you do later.

Kill the body and the head will fall. Boxing's oldest axiom.