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  • #51
    Ali, Holmes, Holyfield, Lewis ....................
    with Frazier can be interesting fight

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    • #52
      IMO Tyson could have been the best IF he would have stayed with Atlas and Rooney and his original promoters King ruined Mike's life and career

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      • #53
        holyfield nor lennox would have beaten tyson if was still with kevin rooney and he didnt **** up outside the ring

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        • #54
          Tyson is god.

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          • #55
            well, put it this way, which fighterwouldnt u like 2 come up against?
            definitely Tyson. Ali and rest of tall big heavyweights were slow starters. Ali had quick hands, but got in full swing by the 3rd round onwards. Tyson was dynamite from the start, he came at u from start to finish, other heavyweights just wait till u get tired and pick ya off.
            Ive always had a belief that short stocky heavies are much tougher than tall ones for some reason, dat goes for most divisions.

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            • #56
              Originally posted by Southpaw16
              I think that a prime Tyson is the fourth best fighter of the last 15 years, behind Lewis, Holyfield, and Rid**** Bowe. Any of those three fighters could have beaten him in his prime.
              i believe only holyfield could. the others tyson would be all over.

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              • #57
                It's so funny to see all these different arguments. Tyson lovers base his career on what he achieved before he was knocked out by Buster Douglas, while Tyson haters base his whole career on what he achieved after he was released from prison. Regardless of how you feel about him, the topic was in relation to the peak Tyson.

                I believe Mike Tyson's peak was when he knocked out Larry Holmes. Although he destroyed Michael Spinks in one round, it could almost be considered a mismatch. Holmes came in and challenged Tyson with the jab. Tyson responded by knocking Holmes down 3 times in the 4th round. That was the Iron Mike that terrorized the heavyweight division. He stalked his opponent and landed pressure blows until he found the knockout punch.

                After he was released from prison, Mike Tyson was not the same boxer. Much like Muhammad Ali, Tyson had lost that spark that made him the best. Ali was treated as a hero by many, while Tyson had lost all the respect and was locked away from the world. That has to do some serious emotional damage right there. We have no idea what happened to him while he was in prison, so we have no right to judge.

                The fact is that before he was imprisoned, Mike Tyson had lost one fight in his career. Every great fighter can lose at least one. Hell, Lennox Lewis lost to Hasim Rahman. Sure, he came back and regained his title, but he didn't go to prison like Tyson did.

                This topic is based on what Tyson accomplished before he lost to Douglas. This has nothing to do with the losses to Holyfield, Lewis or any of the other fighters. At his prime, Tyson was considered to be the best in the world and perhaps one of the greatest of all time. He could knock them out in 2 or last the full 12 rounds. Before the Douglas fight, Tyson had never been troubled. His aggression allowed him to control the fights and that is why he always came out victorious.

                As for who he would lose to, I believe the only two would be George Foreman and Muhammad Ali in their prime. Tyson may or may not be scared of Foreman, but if he is, Foreman's power would take him down in the 8th round.

                Ali's hit-and-run tactics would frustrate Tyson, but he would take the fight to a slugfest with aggression. Rope-a-dope will not work with Tyson, as he would deliver vicious shots to the body. Ali would outbox Tyson to take a uninamous decision.

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by legend_killer
                  Ali would outbox Tyson to take a uninamous decision.
                  if buster douglass knocked tyson out, what makes you think ali couldn't do the same?

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by catskills23
                    Prime tyson beats anyone in history . He was too elusive, too fast and hit too hard . Prime tyson is one of the quickest heavyweights in history . I am not just talking about his handspeed he was very quick on his feet too . Any fighters that tried to run on him got beat down eg tyrell biggs . Ali could try and run from tyson but tyson would just systematically beat him down . Foreman could try and trade with tyson and end up mostly hitting thin air and end up on the deck . There are 2 ways you can fight tyson run and hold and loose a boring decision or stand and trade and end up on the deck . Even george foreman and muhammed ali said during tysons prime that they didnt think they could of beaten tyson and thats what dam near every boxing analyst thought , why has nearly everyone changed their minds since then ? .
                    lol, this is the biggest piece of tyson nuthugging i have ever read in my life!!

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                    • #60
                      Why you keep bringing up old ass topics.

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