Shavers, Foreman, Louis, Tyson - who was the hardest puncher

[StarshipTrooper]

I did read the article from ring in full its all about power, if they took into account, accuracy, timing, combos, do you think Shavers would be ranked 10 and Ali unranked, what a joke.

No you didn't.

[Chex31]

Shavers hands down is the most hardest hitting man

[Die Antwoord]

Tyson hit twice as hard as that, easily. Tyson looked like he was killing people in the ring, theyd twitch.

[Die Antwoord]

No you didn't.

You are trying to say that a list about the greatest puncher , isnt about power even though Ali isnt on it, and Joe Louis is number 1. So either a. Ring magazine is a complete joke. or b. the list is about power. What a joke. So Razor Ruddock is a better puncher than Ali. Based on all aspects of punching, combos, accuracy, diversity, etc.. with power being only one factor...

In 2003, the writers of Ring Magazine published a ranking of the 100 greatest punchers of all-time. Not unlike an all-time pound-for-pound ranking, this list compares fighters across different weight categories and different eras. As such, it's entirely open for debate ...

1. Joe Louis
2. Sam Langford
3. Jimmy Wilde
4. Archie Moore
5. Sandy Saddler
6. Stanley Ketchell
7. Jack Dempsey
8. Bob Fitzsimmons
9. George Foreman
10. Earnie Shavers
11. Sugar Ray Robinson
12. Ruben Olivares
13. Wilfredo Gomez
14. Rocky Marciano
15. Sonny Liston
16. Mike Tyson
17. Bob Foster
18. Thomas Hearns
19. Khaosai Galaxy
20. Alexis Arguello
21. Carlos Zarate
22. Max Baer
23. Rocky Graziano
24. Matthew Saad Muhammad
25. Julian Jackson
26. Danny Lopez
27. Gerald McClellan
28. Roberto Duran
29. Rodrigo Valdez
30. Felix Trinidad
31. Pipino Cuevas
32. Jim Jefferies
33. Lennox Lewis
34. Bennie Briscoe
35. Marvin Hagler
36. Edwin Rosario
37. Tommy Ryan
38. John Mugabi
39. Joe Frazier
40. Carlos Monzon
41. Tony Zale
42. Michael Spinks
43. Joe Gans
44. Elmer Ray
45. George Godfrey
46. Naseem Hamed
47. Alfonso Zamora
48. David Tua
49. Cleveland Williams
50. Julio Cesar Chavez
51. Tiger Jack Fox
52. Joe Walcott
53. Gerry Cooney
54. Al (Bummy) Davis
55. Max Schmeling
56. Florentino Fernandez
57. Henry Armstrong
58. Bob Satterfield
59. Al Hostak
60. Jesus Pimentel
61. Eugene (Cyclone) Hart
62. Lew Jenkins
63. Harry Wills
64. Tom Sharkey
65. Terry McGovern
66. Jersey Joe Walcott
67. Kostya Tszyu
68. Leotis Martin
69. Buddy Baer
70. Donovan (Razor) Ruddock
71. Jose Luis Ramirez
72. Tommy Gomez
73. Jose Napoles
74. Kid McCoy
75. Antonio Esparragoza
76. Ricardo Moreno
77. Evander Holyfield
78. Ike Williams
79. Luis Firpo
80. Ricardo Lopez
81. Humberto Gonzalez
82. Bobby Chacon
83. Jock McAvoy
84. Eduardo Lausse
85. Eder Jofre
86. Charley Burley
87. Mike McCallum
88. Salvador Sanchez
89. Roy Jones Jr.
90. Rodolfo Gonzalez
91. Nigel Benn
92. (Irish) Bob Murphy
93. Paul Berlenbach
94. Battling Torres
95. Chalky Wright
96. George (K.O.) Chaney
97. Andy Ganigan
98. Fred Fulton
99. Ingemar Johansson
100. Charley White

[StarshipTrooper]

I hit my penvs twice as hard as that while watching Wlad and Tyson videos, easily. It looks like I'm killing the ****er when I make, I twitch like the little b1tch that I am.

Fixed it for you

[StarshipTrooper]

You are trying to say that a list about the greatest puncher , isnt about power even though Ali isnt on it, and Joe Louis is number 1. So either a. Ring magazine is a complete joke. or b. the list is about power. What a joke. So Razor Ruddock is a better puncher than Ali. Based on all aspects of punching, combos, accuracy, diversity, etc.. with power being only one factor...

In 2003, the writers of Ring Magazine published a ranking of the 100 greatest punchers of all-time. Not unlike an all-time pound-for-pound ranking, this list compares fighters across different weight categories and different eras. As such, it's entirely open for debate ...

1. Joe Louis
2. Sam Langford
3. Jimmy Wilde
4. Archie Moore
5. Sandy Saddler
6. Stanley Ketchell
7. Jack Dempsey
8. Bob Fitzsimmons
9. George Foreman
10. Earnie Shavers
11. Sugar Ray Robinson
12. Ruben Olivares
13. Wilfredo Gomez
14. Rocky Marciano
15. Sonny Liston
16. Mike Tyson
17. Bob Foster
18. Thomas Hearns
19. Khaosai Galaxy
20. Alexis Arguello
21. Carlos Zarate
22. Max Baer
23. Rocky Graziano
24. Matthew Saad Muhammad
25. Julian Jackson
26. Danny Lopez
27. Gerald McClellan
28. Roberto Duran
29. Rodrigo Valdez
30. Felix Trinidad
31. Pipino Cuevas
32. Jim Jefferies
33. Lennox Lewis
34. Bennie Briscoe
35. Marvin Hagler
36. Edwin Rosario
37. Tommy Ryan
38. John Mugabi
39. Joe Frazier
40. Carlos Monzon
41. Tony Zale
42. Michael Spinks
43. Joe Gans
44. Elmer Ray
45. George Godfrey
46. Naseem Hamed
47. Alfonso Zamora
48. David Tua
49. Cleveland Williams
50. Julio Cesar Chavez
51. Tiger Jack Fox
52. Joe Walcott
53. Gerry Cooney
54. Al (Bummy) Davis
55. Max Schmeling
56. Florentino Fernandez
57. Henry Armstrong
58. Bob Satterfield
59. Al Hostak
60. Jesus Pimentel
61. Eugene (Cyclone) Hart
62. Lew Jenkins
63. Harry Wills
64. Tom Sharkey
65. Terry McGovern
66. Jersey Joe Walcott
67. Kostya Tszyu
68. Leotis Martin
69. Buddy Baer
70. Donovan (Razor) Ruddock
71. Jose Luis Ramirez
72. Tommy Gomez
73. Jose Napoles
74. Kid McCoy
75. Antonio Esparragoza
76. Ricardo Moreno
77. Evander Holyfield
78. Ike Williams
79. Luis Firpo
80. Ricardo Lopez
81. Humberto Gonzalez
82. Bobby Chacon
83. Jock McAvoy
84. Eduardo Lausse
85. Eder Jofre
86. Charley Burley
87. Mike McCallum
88. Salvador Sanchez
89. Roy Jones Jr.
90. Rodolfo Gonzalez
91. Nigel Benn
92. (Irish) Bob Murphy
93. Paul Berlenbach
94. Battling Torres
95. Chalky Wright
96. George (K.O.) Chaney
97. Andy Ganigan
98. Fred Fulton
99. Ingemar Johansson
100. Charley White

That's why they have Fitzsimmons ranked so much higher than Hearns despite the fact they were roughly the same weight over the course of their careers......but you wouldn't know that would you :grin9:

Poet

[StarshipTrooper]

And that's also why they have Hagler ranked over Mugabi despite the fact that Mugabi was clearly the harder punchers and they're both Middleweights

Poet

[Die Antwoord]

That's why they have Fitzsimmons ranked so much higher than Hearns despite the fact they were roughly the same weight over the course of their careers......but you wouldn't know that would you :grin9:

Poet

huh? you dont even know what youre arguing. So you agree, Ali isnt one of the 100 greatest punchers p4p all time. And isnt as good as a puncher as Razor Ruddock p4p...wow Ali must have been terrible, Ring thinks Razor Ruddock was a better p4p puncher than Ali...taking into account all aspects of punching...

Fitzsimmons is ranked about Hearns because hes an overhyped turn of the century fighter. You cite Ring like its gospel...this is clearly about power and Fitzsimmons was rumored ot be a devastating puncher. His KO% at that time was very high and many to this day consider him one of the hardest punchers of all time. I dont agree and its just overrating one of those 1900 fighters...which happens all the time, but Ring does that a lot. this list is clearly about power. Why are you lying.

[Die Antwoord]

And that's also why they have Hagler ranked over Mugabi despite the fact that Mugabi was clearly the harder punchers and they're both Middleweights

Poet

Actually thats because hagler knocked Mugabi out and there ko% was equal despite Hagler fighting the much tougher comp...keep trying. you dont even know what youre arguing.

[StarshipTrooper]

huh? you dont even know what youre arguing. So you agree, Ali isnt one of the 100 greatest punchers p4p all time. And isnt as good as a puncher as Razor Ruddock p4p...wow Ali must have been terrible, Ring thinks Razor Ruddock was a better p4p puncher than Ali...taking into account all aspects of punching...

Fitzsimmons is ranked about Hearns because hes an overhyped turn of the century fighter. You cite Ring like its gospel...this is clearly about power and Fitzsimmons was rumored ot be a devastating puncher. His KO% at that time was very high and many to this day consider him one of the hardest punchers of all time. I dont agree and its just overrating one of those 1900 fighters...which happens all the time, but Ring does that a lot. this list is clearly about power. Why are you lying.

Keep blowing smoke, you've already been made out to be an ignorant fool.....the rest of this is just gravy for my entertainment :grin9:

Poet