Who Was Stronger: Wlad Klitschko or Muhammad Ali

[Wlad Klitschko]

Oh nd to add to the idiocy of you two. Who I hope are the same person, because if not, the world might be too dumb to live in. Buster Mathis's best win of his career came AFTER the Frazier fight. His best win by far was beating George Chuvalo. And the super hw's you talk about Buster Mathis beating happened after he fought Frazier. So what the hell are you talking about. Oh and the 25-0 guy, I had to look up, turns out most of his fights were in circus's against 300+ pounders in a joke division called The Superheavyweight Division.

[JAB5239]

you are illiterate. Hey, maybe you can answer me, what match did Mathis have go past 7 rounds? How many rounds in his career did he win past the 7th? Ill await your ducking of the question. Hey lets just make it a new topic and see if you can answer it.

What does winning past the 7th have to do with anything? Fights can be won any time between the opening and final bell.

[Wlad Klitschko]

You show how ****** you are with every post.Buster Mathis had to come down from 300lbs to fight you idiot.Look at his amateur career first you moron.You do know he was going to represent the United States in the olympics? But he got hurt.The guy he beat to go to the olympics(Joe Frazier) won a Gold medal!! Mathis would have won that Gold medal if he didn't get hurt.Go find that one in boxrec,Lol When Mathis turned pro he had to DROP WEIGHT to get down to 250lbs.Didn't know that did you? You see,i was following boxing and Ali,Frazier,and Mathis at this time.

I notice that you don't mention that Mathis KO'd 6'9" 244lbs James Beattie,who was 30-4.I notice you don't mention that Mathis KO'd UNDEFEATED 6'4" 260lbs Humphrey McBride who was 25-0.

I told you Mathis was never the same AFTER he got brutally KO'd by Joe Frazier.So there you go looking for fights after he fought Frazier.Lol...You are the boxrec warrior.I'm 53 years old and have been following boxing since i was a little kid,where you have to go to boxrec to get your information.

Keep on posting.Please keep posting.We all get a laugh out of it.Keep showing how ****** you are.Lol

You sound like a body builder,Lol...Look at Wlad's arms.Look at the size etc. etc. You act like this is a body builder's competition,Lol God help this man.He really doesn't know how ****** he sounds.Ok,lets compare there chests,arms,legs etc. etc. Lol,Lol Please keep posting TheMagicMan,please!!

Every fight you cited was after he lost to Joe Frazier. The fights I was talking about were before Joe Frazier. You are an idiot. You are the dumbest person on the interwebs. The idiocy is mind numbing. Like Ive never been more confused in my life. How dumb are you? I hope you never bred. Because this lunacy has to die with you.

The James Beattie fight, that you promote that you say was some great win, happened FOUR ****ING MONTHS AFTER HE FOUGHT FRAZIER. Mathis weighed in at 226 lbs. The great James Beattie mind you had fought only once outside of Minnesota because he was a club fighter. Dear god, you are the epitome of a boxrec warrior. Whered you see the fight? BECAUSE THERES NO FOOTAGE OF IT. Just end it.

NOW THAT IS ****ING OWNAGE.

[Wlad Klitschko]

what does winning past the 7th have to do with anything? Fights can be won any time between the opening and final bell.

because his point was frazier brutally ko'd mathis. Mathis was just tired. He had never gone that long. That is the point. Up until that point in his career he had never won a round past the 7th. Hence it isnt shocking that he would be kod in the 11th round. I am using all caps to hopefully get through to you. I have never been more frustrated in my life dealing with this idiocy.

[sleazyfellow]

Anybody who responded to this thread got trolled by wlad.... ali didn't ever have great hitting power but he controlled a lot of stronger opponents in the clinch, would he be able to do that to wlad? Who knows...also, for being 185 pounds if wlad got hit flush by cooper he'd stay down for 10

[blaze778]

BTW, Ali.

[BennyST]

No need to make fun of my English. I say it is second language. What other languages do you speek? And bert sugar just old man. Also slave to nostalgia like most on this forum. I do not come to insult individuals and I am not an alt as you say. I am simple fan on Wlad Klitschko. He is my favorite fighter and best ever heavyweight. He is knock out master and brilliant man. Why compare Wlad out of ring to Ali? Ali is not a noble man like Wlad. Ali is not a smart man like Wlad. Ali turn his back on his country, on his religion, on his wife. Wlad never turn his back. Wlad is not selfish like Ali. Please do not compare Wlad to this man. Do not disparage Wlad. He is a good man.

In the ring right now he cannot be defeat. He win against anyone. He more dominant than Ali ever was. His strength is much larger than Ali, that is not debatable but some say, "ali just as strong." Ali not just as strong as wlad.

You wish me away so I go. No need for insults or accusations. I not insult any of you. I merely try to discuss rationally. Why say Ali beat Foreman. I watch fight. Foreman up at count of 8, why he counted out? That is not win. Wlad nothing liek Foremna either. he is intelligent and uses his jab more effectively and since entering his prime he doesnt punch himself out.

You all love Ali. That is fine, but you are blinded by it and a slave to it and it prohibits you from loving true champion and great man Wlad Klitschko.

You're insulting everyone in the history section with this whole thread.

[BennyST]

Every fight you cited was after he lost to Joe Frazier. The fights I was talking about were before Joe Frazier. You are an idiot. You are the dumbest person on the interwebs. The idiocy is mind numbing. Like Ive never been more confused in my life. How dumb are you? I hope you never bred. Because this lunacy has to die with you.

The James Beattie fight, that you promote that you say was some great win, happened FOUR ****ING MONTHS AFTER HE FOUGHT FRAZIER. Mathis weighed in at 226 lbs. The great James Beattie mind you had fought only once outside of Minnesota because he was a club fighter. Dear god, you are the epitome of a boxrec warrior. Whered you see the fight? BECAUSE THERES NO FOOTAGE OF IT. Just end it.

NOW THAT IS ****ING OWNAGE.

I did also be thinking you aren't able to speak the English? Seeming to me you are using excellent and good words in the sentences that is write by you.

[JAB5239]

because his point was frazier brutally ko'd mathis. Mathis was just tired. He had never gone that long. That is the point.

So what does that mean exactly? Frazier is an all time great and 17 of his first 19 opponents didn't make through the 10th round. He specialized in wearing fighters down.

Up until that point in his career he had never won a round past the 7th.

Prove it or just shut up already. I know I can prove he has. I'll wait to hear your response (excuse) before making you look even more foolish.

Hence it isnt shocking that he would be kod in the 11th round. I am using all caps to hopefully get through to you. I have never been more frustrated in my life dealing with this idiocy.

You aren't even bright enough to use all caps.

[JAB5239]

You're insulting everyone in the history section with this whole thread.

The history section needs a mod!