Lennox Lewis A Top 10 ATG Heavyweight...Really?

[CarlosG815]

Physical prime is 18-32 for all humans. I dont care what you think a fighters prime is, Nature says a 31 year old Vitali should have a significant youth advantage over A 37 year old Lennox. That 6 year gap is a lot wider than say a: 21 year old and a 27 year old...LL was past it and a rematch would be pointless.



Tyson is damned idiot either way. If he is that ******ed to put himself in a situation like that, he deserves to be in prison. He admitted to punching/robbing old ladies in the past, so either way, he belonged there.




Holmes/Berbick had considerable youth advantages over Ali, so those werent great wins.

Lennox/Tyson: same age, both been ko'd twice, fair game.

Zags and Roy were both over 35, only 3 years apart, fair game.

You're dumb as a rock, son.

[Anthony342]

Rid**** Bowe - Undisputed Champion who was avoided by Lennox Lewis in 93 & 95

Bowe also avoided Lewis after Lewis handed him his ass in the '88 Olympics. Rock Newman even admitted to this later, so them not fighting wasn't entirely Lewis' fault.

Watch the ESPN Classic Ringside episode on the Holyfield/Bowe trilogy and you'll see where Newman mentions this. And there was that ****** publicity stunt with Bowe throwing the WBC belt in the garbage rather than give Lewis a title shot, who at the time was a mandatory challenger. Bowe wanted no part of Lewis.

[NChristo]

Bowe also avoided Lewis after Lewis handed him his ass in the '88 Olympics. Rock Newman even admitted to this later, so them not fighting wasn't entirely Lewis' fault.

Did you even watch the Bowe - Lewis fight ?, the referee ****ed Bowe over big time giving him random warnings all through out the fight, Bowe rocked Lewis more in the first round then the supposed knockout punches that Lewis gave Bowe in the second. Bowe was ready to continue and was fine, completely biased ref.

People always say that Lewis beat him without actually watching the fight, even the commentators were saying it was an early stoppage.

This is the same Olympics were Roy Jones got done over by the judges, just thought I'd mention that.

Bowe matured a lot faster and better as a pro then Lewis especially with Futch in his corner, no doubt in my mind that Bowe would of beat him in 92/93' when they should of fought.

[The Noose]

Physical prime is 18-32 for all humans.

Total nonsense.

The massive difference between fighters ageing like foreman, Hopkins, Meldrick Taylor, Tyson etc cannot be dismissed.

... Lewis was a weak-chinned mediocre fighter who was on the same level as Frank Bruno.

Insane.



Based on accomplishments, Lewis is without question a top 10 ATG.

[elfag]

I think he more than makes the top ten. He fought most of everyone out there. I would have liked to see him have fought wlad and some of the other belt holders in the 2000s but DK had his men on lock down from Lennox for good reason.

When he lost he rematched them and KTFO, I think that is good, it shows the heart of a champion to want to avenge defeat.

[turdleburgle]

lewis is far greater than convicted rapist mike tyson.It's amazing how tyson still even has fans.There are few things more evil than **** and as far as I'm concerned he got off lightly.




a disgusting human being and an overrated boxer.

[GoogleMe]

Ali and Joe Louis are the greatest of all time without a shadow of a doubt. With that said, Lennox can be placed anywhere from #3 to #10, depending on your criteria.

George Foreman Never avenged a single defeat in his life. Lost and ran away from Jimmy Young in the PRIME of his career. Lennox has more than thrice as many title defenses as Foreman and defeated everyone he ever faced. I have George ranked #5

Larry Holmes fought in one of the worst eras in Heavyweight history(1980-1986) and his best win was against a Muhammad Ali suffering from Parkinsons. Foreman and Holmes(both born 1949) disqualify each other for refusing to match up in their careers. We will never know how great they really were. I have Larry ranked #7

Rocky Marciano Lennox has twice as many title defenses as rocky. Rocky fought mostly geezers and lightheavyweights, while Lennox fought Prime 27 year olds and SuperHeavyweights. Lennox also defeated the dominant champ of the next era in Vitali Klitschko at a 6 year age disadvantage. Marciano was ALWAYS prime and fought with a youthful edge, then bailed from boxing at 32. I have Marciano ranked #4

Jack Dempsey Took 3 year vacations where he was allowed to keep the title, fought 4 round farces, and he ducked an entire race of people. He shouldnt even be on a top 10 list to be honest, but Ill give him the benefit of the doubt. I have Dempsey ranked #8

Frazier I can see Lennox beating or at least competing with any heavyweight that ever lived...I cant say the same for Joe Frazier because of his performance against George. If Jimmy Young and Lyle can give Foreman a fight why couldnt Frazier? Im not saying Frazier had to win but he didnt even tickle Foreman. I have Frazier ranked #13.

Jack JohnsonJack Johnson had an opportunity to set an example by facing black fighters late in his career, but he refused. He is just as guilty as Dempsey as far as Im concerned, but I think Dempsey is slightly more skilled so I barely give him him the edge. I have Johnson ranked #9.

Jeffries His best win is over a supermiddleweight that he outweighed by 40 lbs! The first guy he faced that was OVER 200lbs knocked his ass out. 37 year old Lennox > 35 year old Jeffries. I have jeff ranked #18.

Tyson Tyson is a year younger than Lennox, and ducked him relentlessly throughout the 90's. Lennox has the head 2 head victory and better overall record, so this is not a tough decision for me. I have Tyson ranked #6.

Lennox is Only 1 of 3 people in history to retire as the heavyweight champion of the world.

- The ONLY undisputed Heavyweight champion in the last 17 years

-Has wins over ATG Tyson, Holyfield, Klitschko, and by way of rematch has defeated every single opponent he ever faced.

-Fought at an age disadvantage for the last 10 fights of his career.

Age of Lennox and his last 10 opponentsAge Difference

Lennox(37) vs Vitali(31) +6
Lennox(36) vs Tyson(35) +1
Lennox(35) vs Rahman(28) +7
Lennox(35) vs David Tua(27) +8
Lennox(35) vs Botha(31) +4
Lennox(34) vs Michael Grant(27) +7
Lennox(33) vs Holyfield(36) -3
Lennox(33) vs Marovic(29) +4
Lennox(32) vs Briggs(26) +6
Lennox(32) vs Golota(29) +3

= +40 years

Physically he is the quickest and most skilled Big man to ever lace up gloves. Defeated every style and archetype of fighter there was. Big, small, fast, powerful, skilled, you name it.. I have Lennox ranked #3

I love your post. And I agree with most parts, except some of the rankings. But your look on Lewis really breaks it down to what it was. He fought every style, all ages and defeated all in rematches.

[The_Demon]

ye hes top 10

[frankenfrank]

He's above both Tyson and Frazier. In my eyes, Frazier is too overrated just because of the Ali fight. I love Frazier, great personality and a fighter. but...... His accomplishments are nowhere near top 10 worthy.

Well , Frazier is also overrated because of the Chuvalo , Quarry , Ellis , Mathis and Doug Jones fights , and a few more.

But nonetheless , still overrated , these guys were no Tua , McCall , nor were they even James Toney , Sam Peter , Jameel McCline , Ross Puritty or Dominick Guinn .


Off topic (remark against any doubts about what I claimed) :
Yes , James Toney at HW would have schholed these guys , they were smaller than Guinn , Peter , Rahman and Holyfield. Toney could have taken their punches , and would not have done any worse against them than he did against Peter and Rahman at least.

[frankenfrank]

lewis is far greater than convicted rapist mike tyson.It's amazing how tyson still even has fans.There are few things more evil than **** and as far as I'm concerned he got off lightly.




a disgusting human being and an overrated boxer.

A quote from "Undisputed" : "some hos like it rough" .