Dirtiest Fighter Ever?

[joe strong]

Evander Holyfield
Andrew Gollota

these 2 are my picks as well.

[JK1700]

I'm amazed that hardly anybody has mentioned Bernard Hopkins, This guy is certainly the dirtiest fighter of my era and arguably of all time. If you dont believe me then watch his fight with Winky Wright, He deliberately butted Winky at least three times in addition to holding and hitting, rabbit punching and hitting on the break and after the bell. It was disgraceful.

A competent referee would have at least warned him and threatned to DQ Hopkins but he was basically allowed to do whatever he wanted to win that fight. All the referee did was come in and push them apart everytime Bernard started clinching, Which was about 10 times every round. But like I said, He wasnt warned once, Despite all of these dirty tactics.

He's definetly the most dirty guy I have ever seen, But there are some others that deserve a mention. Most notably Andre Ward, Another disgracefully dirty fighter who gets all of his fights in his hometown with hometown referee's that don't punish him for his excessive clinching and deliberate headbutting.

[turdleburgle]

I'm amazed that hardly anybody has mentioned Bernard Hopkins, This guy is certainly the dirtiest fighter of my era and arguably of all time. If you dont believe me then watch his fight with Winky Wright, He deliberately butted Winky at least three times in addition to holding and hitting, rabbit punching and hitting on the break and after the bell. It was disgraceful.

A competent referee would have at least warned him and threatned to DQ Hopkins but he was basically allowed to do whatever he wanted to win that fight. All the referee did was come in and push them apart everytime Bernard started clinching, Which was about 10 times every round. But like I said, He wasnt warned once, Despite all of these dirty tactics.

He's definetly the most dirty guy I have ever seen, But there are some others that deserve a mention. Most notably Andre Ward, Another disgracefully dirty fighter who gets all of his fights in his hometown with hometown referee's that don't punish him for his excessive clinching and deliberate headbutting.

And let's not forget your hero

[JAB5239]

I know Oscar Bonavena's camp complained about Frazier's ball busting prior to his rematch with Frazier.

Lol, one fighter? Source or it didn't happen.

Fighters didn't really complain as much about headbutts and low blows back then.

Says who? Another unjustified claim.

Frazier was a dirty fighter.Asking for proof that he is more dirty than Holyfield is ridiculous.You can only have an opinion on that matter.

There is plenty of video of BOTH fighters. There is also testimony from the fighters they fought and people who have watched them. Post up everything you can find on Frazier being a dirty fighter and I'll do the same with Holyfield than lets see who is more credible here.

Throwing out some little E-wager everytime there's a disagreement is certainly a cause for concern.

Being so terrified to lose e-points is even more a concern.

You can run out money but you can't run out of E-points,huh?

I don't pay my bills with e-points so I don't ever worry about it. It just makes things a little more interesting because posters such as yourself are to scared to lose them.

[JK1700]

And let's not forget your hero

lol, What is he doing wrong? Hatton is holding him and he's looking at the ref as if to say "Is this allowed"?

I'm guessing your one of those people that think Joe Cortez influenced the Mayweather-Hatton fight. I advise you to go back and watch it again without being biased and judge the fight for yourself.

The exchanges that Cortez broke up would have been broken up by any other referee. Yes inside fighting is a key part of boxing but if you are just holding the guy and not punching then the referee has to break it up.

There was plenty of instances in that fight where Cortez did allow them to exchange along the ropes and Hatton simply got nothing done on the inside. That was because of Mayweather, not Cortez.

Floyd just beat Hatton at his own game.

[turdleburgle]

lol, What is he doing wrong? Hatton is holding him and he's looking at the ref as if to say "Is this allowed"?

I'm guessing your one of those people that think Joe Cortez influenced the Mayweather-Hatton fight. I advise you to go back and watch it again without being biased and judge the fight for yourself.

The exchanges that Cortez broke up would have been broken up by any other referee. Yes inside fighting is a key part of boxing but if you are just holding the guy and not punching then the referee has to break it up.

There was plenty of instances in that fight where Cortez did allow them to exchange along the ropes and Hatton simply got nothing done on the inside. That was because of Mayweather, not Cortez.

Floyd just beat Hatton at his own game.

Sticking his elbow in his opponents face is what he's doing wrong.



It wasn't just against Hatton he did it either.A 38 year old Shane Mosley had Mayweather's elbow in his face all night too.

[BigStereotype]

lol, What is he doing wrong? Hatton is holding him and he's looking at the ref as if to say "Is this allowed"?

I'm guessing your one of those people that think Joe Cortez influenced the Mayweather-Hatton fight. I advise you to go back and watch it again without being biased and judge the fight for yourself.

The exchanges that Cortez broke up would have been broken up by any other referee. Yes inside fighting is a key part of boxing but if you are just holding the guy and not punching then the referee has to break it up.

There was plenty of instances in that fight where Cortez did allow them to exchange along the ropes and Hatton simply got nothing done on the inside. That was because of Mayweather, not Cortez.

Floyd just beat Hatton at his own game.

That is a clear elbow to the face. Floyd would have beat the everloving **** out of Hatton that night, Cortez or no. Floyd beat him inside, picked him apart and all that. But he is clearly jamming his elbow in Hattons face and I think that's the eye that got cut.

[JK1700]

Sticking his elbow in his opponents face is what he's doing wrong.



It wasn't just against Hatton he did it either.A 38 year old Shane Mosley had Mayweather's elbow in his face all night too.

I'm going to ignore your post as you seem to be an ignorant troll/******* who has absolutley no idea of what they are talking about.

That is a clear elbow to the face. Floyd would have beat the everloving **** out of Hatton that night, Cortez or no. Floyd beat him inside, picked him apart and all that. But he is clearly jamming his elbow in Hattons face and I think that's the eye that got cut.

That picture isnt conclusive at all. You can't even see his elbow, If you look closely it's actually his arm which he is using to try and push Hatton off him. The elbow isnt anywhere near Hatton's face, It's pointing in the opposite direction.

Elbow or not, It's boxing and things like that happen. You'd be naive to think Hatton or any other fighter hasnt roughed up an opponent on the inside before. That's just part of the game, It happens all the time. I don't think pushing somebody off with your arm or elbow can be described as "dirty tactics".

To me dirty tactics is things like deliberate headbutting, rabbit punching, low blows and hitting on the break and after the bell. People are bound to use their elbows and arms on the inside, That's nothing new.

[turdleburgle]

I'm going to ignore your post as you seem to be an ignorant troll/******* who has absolutley no idea of what they are talking about.


That picture isnt conclusive at all. You can't even see his elbow, If you look closely it's actually his arm which is trying to push Hatton off him.

Elbow or not, It's boxing and things like that happen. You'd be naive to think Hatton or any other fighter hasnt roughed up an opponent on the inside before. That's just part of the game, It happens all the time. I don't think pushing somebody off with your elbow can be described as "dirty tactics".

To me dirty tactics is things like deliberate headbutting, rabbit punching, low blows and hitting on the break and after the bell. People are bound to use their elbows and arms on the inside, That's nothing new.

You really are a deluded nuthugger arent you? there is video evidence of him using his elbows to push off/into his opponents face.That's illegal.



he did it throughout his fight with hatton and mosley.

[BigStereotype]

I'm going to ignore your post as you seem to be an ignorant troll/******* who has absolutley no idea of what they are talking about.



That picture isnt conclusive at all. You can't even see his elbow, If you look closely it's actually his arm which he is using to try and push Hatton off him. The elbow isnt anywhere near Hatton's face, It's pointing in the opposite direction.

Elbow or not, It's boxing and things like that happen. You'd be naive to think Hatton or any other fighter hasnt roughed up an opponent on the inside before. That's just part of the game, It happens all the time. I don't think pushing somebody off with your arm or elbow can be described as "dirty tactics".

To me dirty tactics is things like deliberate headbutting, rabbit punching, low blows and hitting on the break and after the bell. People are bound to use their elbows and arms on the inside, That's nothing new.

I did't mean it in a derogatory sense - I see dirty tactics as more cagey than unsportsmanlike. Well, ball punches are, but hip punches, holding and hitting and all that don't really bother me. But Mayweather is leaning into the elbow, I really do think that's an intentional foul. But you're right: Hatton is a dirty fighter as well. The low-blow against Tszyu is legendary.