I Don't Know How To Start This...

[r.burgundy]

yes Emile Griffith would take apart Floyd Mayweather Jr. in fact it would be an easy fight for Griffith... i suggest you watch Willard vs Jack Johnson, Frank Moran and more so his fight with Floyd Johnson and you will see just how good and skilled Willard was... Carnera had as much skill and better power than Wlad, Carnera fought the best possible opponents whereas Wlad only fights tomato cans and loses to any fighter who can pop him on the chin something Carnera & Willard would have no trouble achieving

sonny im starting to think you mafia connections.calling canera a stiff would be disrespectful to stiffs.

so in the 100 years since jack johnson fought you somehow belive that nobody was able to build on his groundwork and become a more skilled fighter??thats like saying charles naismith is the greatest bball player who ever lived.

[JAB5239]

wlad under steward has turned into the most dominant heavy since tyson,and dempsey or johnson wouldnt stand a chance.dempsey is a joke as ali has pointed out.just a media invention.and even if you want to say those guys beat him,wlad is still incredibly skilled,as along with the rest of the list

and at 130-135,absolutely nobody beats floyd

theres no such thing as an unbeatable fighter.charles or robinson wouldnt have a snowballs chance in hell of beating jones nor would pep or saddler beat pernell

This is just a horrible, uninformed and unintelligent post. All of it.

[DeepSleep]

I think you guys are arguing a bit to black and white here. There are great skilled fighter's today and great skilled fighter's in the past. In the past there was more because the sport was more popular, but I think if you were to write up a list of top fighter's for each division you would find at least a few fighter's from each decade making the list.

That said it's pointless to compare a current figher's greatness to a past fighter's greatness, you really have to wait until his career has came to an end and the entirety of his achievements can be reviewed. Doing so otherwise can make you look silly later on (See Sonnyboy's post about the Nat Fleischer article from 1970 before the fight of the century, I'd imagine if he was around today he would have a very different view).

[r.burgundy]

This is just a horrible, uninformed and unintelligent post. All of it.

thank you for that great post

[Obama]

they was vastly more skilled back then than they are today, Vitali Klitschko is very under-skilled and would lose to a guy like Jess Willard or Primo Carnera or Max Baer.. Vitali just does not have the boxing skills or ability to beat any of those guys yet he is regarded as the No1 heavyweight in the world today.. the vast majority of fighters who Vitali defends his title against are Class D fighters who would never be rated in the top 100 of any other era of this sport... the same can be applied to most of todays fighters, if Floyd Mayweather was to fight say Emile Griffith he would be destroyed quickly and easily by the far better Griffith, there are dozens of fighters from other era`s who would beat the likes of Vitali & Floyd because they was far greater at boxing ability

This is nut hugging the past at it's best.

[JAB5239]

I think you guys are arguing a bit to black and white here. There are great skilled fighter's today and great skilled fighter's in the past. In the past there was more because the sport was more popular, but I think if you were to write up a list of top fighter's for each division you would find at least a few fighter's from each decade making the list.

That said it's pointless to compare a current figher's greatness to a past fighter's greatness, you really have to wait until his career has came to an end and the entirety of his achievements can be reviewed. Doing so otherwise can make you look silly later on (See Sonnyboy's post about the Nat Fleischer article from 1970 before the fight of the century, I'd imagine if he was around today he would have a very different view).

Good post DS!

[JAB5239]

thank you for that great post

Kudo's accepted, I always try to speak the truth and be objective.


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