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Prime Muhammad Ali vs Prime Jack Dempsey - Who Wins?

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  • #11
    Dempsey is a near unparalleled puncher when he's on song, but he was abi vulnerable when he overextended. I think that he'd box neat but fall behind and Ali would start to punish him pretty badly in the second half of the fight. Referee rescues him around 12.

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    • #12
      Does anyone think the era in which they fought would make a difference?
      say 1920 vs 1970. differences in ring, gloves etc.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by considerthis View Post
        Does anyone think the era in which they fought would make a difference?
        say 1920 vs 1970. differences in ring, gloves etc.
        Ali would dance circles around any fighter from Dempsey's era. Also, Ali wearing smaller gloves will improve his KO ratio. Ring size? Not relevant as Ali had the ability to adapt to a smaller ring.

        Bigger gloves on Dempsey will mean what exactly?

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        • #14
          Originally posted by Rubber Soul View Post
          Ali would dance circles around any fighter from Dempsey's era. Also, Ali wearing smaller gloves will improve his KO ratio. Ring size? Not relevant as Ali had the ability to adapt to a smaller ring.

          Bigger gloves on Dempsey will mean what exactly?
          i was talkin about what era this mythical match match would take place in...ali's or dempsey's?

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          • #15
            Originally posted by considerthis View Post
            i was talkin about what era this mythical match match would take place in...ali's or dempsey's?

            I'll always go with Ali here. But I don't see it as any kind of walkover. Dempsey was tough and elusive. This wouldn't be a cake walk.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by Rubber Soul View Post
              Ali would dance circles around any fighter from Dempsey's era. Also, Ali wearing smaller gloves will improve his KO ratio. Ring size? Not relevant as Ali had the ability to adapt to a smaller ring.

              Bigger gloves on Dempsey will mean what exactly?

              Worse fighters than Dempsey were able to get to Ali. I'd give post ban Ali an easier time against Dempsey than pre ban Ali. Jmo though.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by considerthis View Post
                i was talkin about what era this mythical match match would take place in...ali's or dempsey's?
                Read the first post. We are deciding which fighter will win based on what we have seen from both of them on film. They could be fighting in 2040 for all I care. Judge on what we know.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by Rubber Soul View Post
                  Read the first post. We are deciding which fighter will win based on what we have seen from both of them on film. They could be fighting in 2040 for all I care. Judge on what we know.
                  Different eras = different rules, in Dempseys era if Dempsey managed to knock him down he would be able to wait around him and wait for him to get up before attacking immediatly again while in Ali's era he will be given time to recover, it will make a difference.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by Rubber Soul View Post
                    Read the first post. We are deciding which fighter will win based on what we have seen from both of them on film. They could be fighting in 2040 for all I care. Judge on what we know.
                    Ali wins in my opinion. But based on what we know, this isn't an easy fight.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by NChristo View Post
                      Different eras = different rules, in Dempseys era if Dempsey managed to knock him down he would be able to wait around him and wait for him to get up before attacking immediatly again while in Ali's era he will be given time to recover, it will make a difference.
                      Still doesn't make a difference. Ali had tremendous recuperative abilities. He got cracked on the chin by a Doug Jones left hook, his knees buckled for a split second yet still managed to stay on his feet. Frazier dropped him with a bomb of a hook yet Ali regained all his senses when he stood on his feet. regardless of whether Ali would be given time to recover or not.

                      Ali never took an 8 count in his career. Now Demspey fighting in Ali's Era with bigger gloves would mean his KO% would decrease.

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