Oscar DeLa Hoya VS Roberto Duran

[CarlosG815]

So because an old, drunken, fat, undersized Duran got sparked by a top 3 P4P puncher in history, a talented prospect beats him in his prime? Is that what you're saying? Because that's what it seems like. And guess what: Ray Leonard is one inch shorter than De La Hoya. He's got more power, faster hands, a better chin, bigger heart, better mobility, i.e. he's a better fighter in every department. Duran moved up to a weight class he had never fought at and gave Sugar Ray his first loss. Duran at lightweight is better than welterweight. So, if De La Hoya reached his prime at welterweight, he was before his prime at lightweight. What accomplishments at 135 does De La Hoya have at 135 that put him anywhere near Hands of Stone? Duran bullys De La Hoya and caves in his ribcage, breaks an eyesocket, etc. TKO 9.

You are an incredibly ****** person and that's why you can't have a sensible debate with you.

You are the only one trying to make The Great Oscar DLH out to be Zab Judah.

[BigStereotype]

****, everyone. I just lost. I just realized that De La Hoya has the impressive win over John John Molina at 135. Totally trumps Duran's entire domination of the lightweight division for a decade. Right. I'm actually a De La Hoya fan. I like his style and I really like his courage. But he's not in the same league as Duran, especially not at 135, which wasn't even his best weight! And I believe he'd get that ****ed up because that is what Duran did to people!

[BigStereotype]

You are an incredibly ****** person and that's why you can't have a sensible debate with you.

You are the only one trying to make The Great Oscar DLH out to be Zab Judah.

Where am I doing that? I just said he might be a top 50 atg! It's just that him at his greenest doesn't compare to the GREATEST LIGHTWEIGHT OF ALL TIME!

By the way...didn't you say somewhere that Ali beat Foreman with footwork? I think that pretty much sums up your boxing knowledge.

[The Iron Man]

There are many similarities between ODLH and SRL and Duran was very pumped for his 1st fight with SRL i could see this again being the scenario for this fight. I do not think oscar would be able to hold duran off with his jab and could end up getting frustrated at not being able to hurt Duran. I see a late TKO Duran.

[them_apples]

At lightweight, Duran beats the living **** out of De La Hoya. At 147, it's closer, but Duran still wins convincingly. 154, you could make a case for the Golden Boy. And Duran is maybe a top 10 ATG, Hoya might not crack 50.

154 lb DLH wouldnt beat the Duran that fought Hagler. DLH's best bet is WW where he has speed and power and size. Still loses though IMO. DLH is good but not as good as Duran.

I could see him having a shot at 147 though. DLH wasn't that great at 154 imo. DLH did good in a brawl so if it was anything like that night in Montreal he's got a good chance.

[them_apples]

You are an incredibly ****** person and that's why you can't have a sensible debate with you.

You are the only one trying to make The Great Oscar DLH out to be Zab Judah.

Duran wasn't old or drunken when he got sparked by Hearns, he was simply undersized a fought the wrong fight.

[-Huey-]

DLH outboxes Duran and possibly stops him in the late rounds.

[CarlosG815]

Duran wasn't old or drunken when he got sparked by Hearns, he was simply undersized a fought the wrong fight.

He also called DLH a "prospect."

That's the caliber of moron we're dealing with.

What you fail to realize, is that "prospect" went on to be one of the greatest fighters of all time, and because we know that, we can't talk about him as if he didn't go on to be a 10x world champion who beat the best of the best and won titles in several weight divisions.

DLH was just such a damn good boxer that just watching him and how brilliant he was still amazes me.

And Duran fought Tommy Hearns totally wrong - standing upright without bobbing and weaving at all. You can get away with that against lesser competition, which is what Duran was used to. DLH is somewhat similar to Tommy Hearns in style. If Duran came at DLH upright he's going to set himself up for punishment.

Don't forget DLH's great reach, speed, and incredible power. He was also a great finisher. When he smelled blood the aztec in him would wake up and he'd eat your heart.

He was hungry, he had killer instinct, and he had a granite chin.

Duran was great but that doesn't mean he's going to walk all over Oscar. That's just ridiculous.

[Jim Jeffries]

Did someone just compare DLH with Tommy Hearns?:WTF??:

Probably ought to stay away from the :rollj:

[CarlosG815]

Did someone just compare DLH with Tommy Hearns?:WTF??:

Probably ought to stay away from the :rollj:

Don't try to be slick and condescending if you can't do it without taking something out of context. If you can't understand what I'm saying then you're an even bigger idiot than I thought, and I find myself telling you that everyday so you continue to slide down the scale.