Ezzard Charles vs Manny Pacquiao - Who ranks higher P4P?

[NChristo]

what is BMR effect?

The Black Murderers Row, Charles was ducked by most title holders because of his skin colour and skills along with the rest of BMR, Burley, Williams, Bivins, Chase, Lytell, Marshall, Booker etc.

[The Beatles]

The Black Murderers Row, Charles was ducked by most title holders because of his skin colour and skills along with the rest of BMR, Burley, Williams, Bivins, Chase, Lytell, Marshall, Booker etc.

its been argued that Charles ducked Burley

[sonnyboyx2]

The Black Murderers Row, Charles was ducked by most title holders because of his skin colour and skills along with the rest of BMR, Burley, Williams, Bivins, Chase, Lytell, Marshall, Booker etc.

What a load of rubbish... i have followed boxing for over 40yrs, i have over 20,000+ fights in my collection, i have more than 12,000+ magazines & books yet up to about 3 months ago i had never ever heard of nor had i ever read of this "Black Murders Row" garbage which is now spewed-out repeatedly on boxing forums... i have all the possible footage there is to have on Burley, Williams, Bivins, Chase, Lytell, Marshall & Booker and as boxing fans we can only go by what we watch on film, yet IMO none of those fighters was superior in any way to the champions of the day, i have read how Burley was supposed to have been avoided by Ray Robinson etc etc etc etc yet what i have seen of both fighters Robinson would have slaughtered Charley Burley just like he would have done with the others, i have repeatedly read how Jack Dempsey supposedly avoided Harry Wills, again total bull****e, Dempsey would have knocked out Wills before the ****in bell stopped ringing, all this shoulda, woulda, coulda and avoided by rubbish is everything which is wrong with boxing on these forums... i suggest you go away and start yourself a fight-film collection, make up your own mind and judgement and dont fall into this mythical crap about things which never happened and are not reality.. invest in some Ring Magazines from the 40s & 50s, read for yourself the fight reports instead of reading and picking-up on some article written by some 17yrs old kid on the internet whose only knowledge of the sport is what his Dad told him about watching Mike Tyson when he was a boy.

[Southpaw16BF]

What a load of rubbish... i have followed boxing for over 40yrs, i have over 20,000+ fights in my collection, i have more than 12,000+ magazines & books yet up to about 3 months ago i had never ever heard of nor had i ever read of this "Black Murders Row" garbage which is now spewed-out repeatedly on boxing forums.

LMAO. The Murders Row Tag has been going for years, yet you claim you only just now about them, but have followed boxing fo 40 years. What a load of bull ****.

... i have all the possible footage there is to have on Burley, Williams, Bivins, Chase, Lytell, Marshall & Booker

Shame there is none of Williams. Carry on your lies.

and as boxing fans we can only go by what we watch on film, yet IMO none of those fighters was superior in any way to the champions of the day, i have read how Burley was supposed to have been avoided by Ray Robinson etc etc etc etc yet what i have seen of both fighters Robinson would have slaughtered Charley Burley just like he would have done with the others

Although Robinson may have beat Burley, I dout he would slaughter him. Burley was one of the most durable and slick fighters of all time. And Robinson must of not have the same confindence in himself as you have him, by rejecting Bulrey as a possible opponent.


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i have repeatedly read how Jack Dempsey supposedly avoided Harry Wills, again total bull****e, Dempsey would have knocked out Wills before the ****in bell stopped ringing, all this shoulda, woulda, coulda and avoided by rubbish is everything which is wrong with boxing on these forums...

Shame Dempsey cound't of got in the ring and proved it instead of ducking Willis for 6 years.

[NChristo]

What a load of rubbish... i have followed boxing for over 40yrs, i have over 20,000+ fights in my collection, i have more than 12,000+ magazines & books yet up to about 3 months ago i had never ever heard of nor had i ever read of this "Black Murders Row" garbage which is now spewed-out repeatedly on boxing forums... i have all the possible footage there is to have on Burley, Williams, Bivins, Chase, Lytell, Marshall & Booker and as boxing fans we can only go by what we watch on film, yet IMO none of those fighters was superior in any way to the champions of the day, i have read how Burley was supposed to have been avoided by Ray Robinson etc etc etc etc yet what i have seen of both fighters Robinson would have slaughtered Charley Burley just like he would have done with the others, i have repeatedly read how Jack Dempsey supposedly avoided Harry Wills, again total bull****e, Dempsey would have knocked out Wills before the ****in bell stopped ringing, all this shoulda, woulda, coulda and avoided by rubbish is everything which is wrong with boxing on these forums... i suggest you go away and start yourself a fight-film collection, make up your own mind and judgement and dont fall into this mythical crap about things which never happened and are not reality.. invest in some Ring Magazines from the 40s & 50s, read for yourself the fight reports instead of reading and picking-up on some article written by some 17yrs old kid on the internet whose only knowledge of the sport is what his Dad told him about watching Mike Tyson when he was a boy.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Charley-Burley-Black-Murderers-Row/dp/095439240X/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1270567947&sr=8-3

Go and read it you might actually learn something about boxing history and the BMR.

What you just wrote was all your "opinions", books and facts seem to say otherwise.

[GoogleMe]

Ezzard Charles fought better opposition, so by a mile better then Pacquiao.

[NChristo]

Also it was Budd Schulberg (R.i.p) who named Charley and the others the "Black Murderers Row", if you have read that many magazines and books on boxing you should know who he was, an amazing boxing novelist, not some 17 year old who writes articles on the internet.

[NChristo]

Shame there is none of Williams. Carry on your lies.

No Eddie Booker footage either.

[sonnyboyx2]

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Charley-Burl...0567947&sr=8-3

Go and read it you might actually learn something about boxing history and the BMR.

What you just wrote was all your "opinions", books and facts seem to say otherwise.

you are talking garbage, that term "Murderes Row" was not used by Budd Shulberg, it is a term used by the unknown author of a limited edition book of 300 copies named Charley Burley, the author got his info from the great great grandson of Burley`s cousin which is about as authentic in facts as that ridiculous Holywood movie Hurricane - Ruben Carter, which is based on untruths and glamorised for the camera so as to make it sell.

i noticed you have got your girlfriend to start up a thread to try to ridicule me, you have blocked me from putting a comment on it... yes i was correct when i said you was a young 17yr old, just remember son that i have forgotten more than you will ever know on this sport.

[TheGreatA]

Budd Schulberg called them the "Murderer's Row" of middleweights in his book "Sparring with Hemingway: and other legends of the fight game".

http://books.google.fi/books?cd=1&id=4RKCAAAAMAAJ&dq=murderer%27s+row+schulberg&q=murderer%27s+row+#search_anchor