Ezzard Charles vs Manny Pacquiao - Who ranks higher P4P?

[Rolling Stone]

Should have made it a public poll. That way we could see the ignorant by name

Poet

it is a public poll mate....just ignore those ****** idiots

[The Noose]

Maybe i just dont know enough about Charles and his opponents. But i dont recognise many.

It would seem Pac best wins are just as good as Charles's. Yet Pac has moved up in weight like very few have.

[Oasis_Lad]

It is a public poll.

Ezzard Charles
BennyST, DeepSleep, El Castigador, EzzardFan, flexxx145, Oasis_Lad, poet682006, Rolling Stone, T3dBundy, TheGreatA, wmute - 11 = 37.93%


Manny Pacquiao
*AKO PA HA!, Akinapepemo, Castor_Troy, fabie, ianntheman, irrashai19, kadyo, LeeVanCleef, miron_lang, peyk-peyk, rocky_balboa23, rpogi, Shaktivel, sonnyboyx2, Talisayen, tanibanana, titan_1987, yeks -
18 = 62.07%


I can't make up my mind - 0 = 0%

[#1Assassin]

its ****ing sad pacquiao is leading this poll. ezzard charles is on a whole other level.

now ppl are gonna say im jealous of pac just bcuz i have common sense. the truth is no currently active fighter ranks as high as charles. hopkins, mosley, pac and floyd have a chance to get there, but i doubt any of them will. it will take them 3-4 more big wins for there to even be reason to discuss it. as of now its laughable.

[TheGreatA]

Maybe i just dont know enough about Charles and his opponents. But i dont recognise many.

It would seem Pac best wins are just as good as Charles's. Yet Pac has moved up in weight like very few have.

Archie Moore arguably top 20 ATG, top 3 all-time light heavyweight.
Charley Burley top 50 ATG, great middleweight.
Jersey Joe Walcott top 20 all-time heavyweight.
Joe Louis top 2 heavyweight.
Jimmy Bivins top 20 all-time light heavyweight.
Lloyd Marshall beat 9 world champions.

http://www.ibhof.com/pages/about/ind...rn/burley.html
http://www.ibhof.com/pages/about/ind...ern/maxim.html
http://www.ibhof.com/pages/about/ind...ern/moore.html
http://www.ibhof.com/pages/about/ind...rn/bivins.html
http://www.ibhof.com/pages/about/ind...ottjersey.html
http://www.ibhof.com/pages/about/ind...ern/louis.html
http://www.ibhof.com/pages/about/ind.../marshall.html
http://www.ibhof.com/pages/about/ind...er/yarosz.html

[HaglerSteelChin]

I have Charles #21 and Pac #23 so i have slight edge to Charles mainly for his big wins and all the HOF fighters he beat; despite having like 24 or 25 losses.

[StarshipTrooper]

it is a public poll mate....just ignore those ****** idiots

I see it now. Dunno why it wasn't showing before.....BS glitch I guess

Poet

[Obama]

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too early to rate Pac among greats like Charles.

But if you must do so, at the very least rate him against a 67-5-1 Charles, not a 93-25-1 Charles. Pac right now is where Charles was at that point. And at that point Charles was considered possibly the GOAT. Hype is relative to timing people.

[Junito-Rulez]

I just said Pacquiao because he dominates his era and won titles from featherweight to Welterweight. Ezzard may have had the harder task but you could say that in all comparisons between new and old fighters.

Ezzard wasn't the greatest in his era as long as Pacquiao but i agree that people rank him ahead of Pacquiao. I chosed Pacquiao because he's probably the most incredible small fighter of all time. His career is and style unusual: orthodox style, started as a good( but nothing close to great) slugger became a great and won titles until he beat the best WW of his time.

If you don't do that, you'll systematically rank old school guys ahead of Pacquiao, Hopkins, etc...

[Obama]

I just said Pacquiao because he dominates his era and won titles from featherweight to Welterweight. Ezzard may have had the harder task but you could say that in all comparisons between new and old fighters.

Ezzard wasn't the greatest in his era as long as Pacquiao but i agree that people rank him ahead of Pacquiao. I chosed Pacquiao because he's probably the most incredible small fighter of all time. His career is and style unusual: orthodox style, started as a good( but nothing close to great) slugger became a great and won titles until he beat the best WW of his time.

If you don't do that, you'll systematically rank old school guys ahead of Pacquiao, Hopkins, etc...

Pacquiao beat 2 Welterweights. One had no business fighting at WW anymore and was dead at the weight. The other came off 2 brutal beatings in his last 3 fights. Yet Pacquiao beat the best WWs of his time...none of them with the name Floyd Mayweather or Shane Mosley.

Allllllllrighty then.

By the way, Ezzard was the best LHW of the 40s. This no one can refute. What weight division did Pac ever dominate? Or did he just pick and choose his fights and move from one weight class to the next? How exactly is he "dominating" his era when he's never taken on all comers, never cleaned out a division, never been undisputed Champion. Pac has been pretty impressive at winning world titles, pretty unremarkable at unifying or defending them.