Did Roy Jones handpick his opponents?

[Calilloyd]

[QUOTE=elephant man;7327273]James Toney hardly had a training camp for the Jones fight,He starved himself to lose 48lbs in 6 weeks...cmon man,No one is saying thats Roys fault but there is no way in hell Toney was anywhere near his best in that fight.

You're just making up things now. And Hopkins went undefeated for 12 years after the Jones fight. So to say he was "only a shell"
of what he became is not accurate or truthful. As far as DM, Jones did not want to go to his country to get robbed. And DM never fought out of Germany for a reason. Just check out the gifts he got in fights with Graciano Rocchigiani, Richard Hall, and Montell Griffin. Tell the whole story. Not fabrications.

[Calilloyd]

Lewis vs Tucker was just shocking, I think I watched about 3 rounds before switching off.

That was one fight. And Lewis had plenty of KO's on record. Many with one punch. What was "boring" about those? To base a fighters mans career on one fight he dominated is ridiculous.

[General Zod]

That was one fight. And Lewis had plenty of KO's on record. Many with one punch. What was "boring" about those? To base a fighters mans career on one fight he dominated is ridiculous.

If you read my previous posts you will find I mention: McCall I,Rahman I, Ruddock and Bruno. On top of that I have watched McCall II,Mason,Mercer I,Tyson, Holyfield I and II and Morrison.
I found Lewis style of fighting boring: jab, straight right and clinch.
Just because a guy has koed a lot of people doesnt make them exciting which is a subjective criteria anyway.

[General Zod]

James Toney hardly had a training camp for the Jones fight,He starved himself to lose 48lbs in 6 weeks...cmon man,No one is saying thats Roys fault but there is no way in hell Toney was anywhere near his best in that fight.

You're just making up things now. And Hopkins went undefeated for 12 years after the Jones fight. So to say he was "only a shell"
of what he became is not accurate or truthful. As far as DM, Jones did not want to go to his country to get robbed. And DM never fought out of Germany for a reason. Just check out the gifts he got in fights with Graciano Rocchigiani, Richard Hall, and Montell Griffin. Tell the whole story. Not fabrications.

Its a well known fact that Toney was in awful shape for his fight against Jones its covered in detail in the following book: The Dark Trade by Donald McRae

[nachorjj]

B Hop was like 27 or 28 when he fought RJJ and had been boxing for most of his life.

And if you think he had a chance against Tyson at any point in Tyson's career, you're straight delusional or you've never watched the man fight. Tyson isn't the same as he was in the 80's, but he's weighed over 200 lb's since he was a teenager. Just the pure intimidation that RJJ would feel looking across the ring would make him wet his pants and he'd be done before the bell rang.

And honestly, RJJ doesn't throw hard enough to hurt Mike if he did have the balls to get inside.

I think that Roy was more green than Hopkins in his fight. and I think that Roy out box a past prime Tyson. The reason of Roy to fight Ruiz and not Mike is that Ruis was the champion at the time and not Mike

[IMDAZED]

Its a well known fact that Toney was in awful shape for his fight against Jones its covered in detail in the following book: The Dark Trade by Donald McRae

Yeah, he was always in awful shape. Big deal.

[General Zod]

Yeah, he was always in awful shape. Big deal.

[donkim]

This emoticon always reminds me of the "Safety Dance" song.

[True Guru]

You're just making up things now. Tell the whole story. Not fabrications.

Toney started camp 6 weeks before the Jones fight,He entered camp weighing 214lbs..in 6 weeks he starved himself down to 167lbs.
Its not fabrications,its the truth,sorry.

And Hopkins went undefeated for 12 years after the Jones fight. So to say he was "only a shell"
of what he became is not accurate or truthful.

Joe Calzaghe went 15 years unbeaten,so according to your logic he was always in his prime.
A few fights after Jones,Hopkins was put on his ass and drew with a straight up bum..prime Hopkins? yeah sure he was.

As far as DM, Jones did not want to go to his country to get robbed. And DM never fought out of Germany for a reason. Just check out the gifts he got in fights with Graciano Rocchigiani, Richard Hall, and Montell Griffin. Tell the whole story. Not fabrications.

More Jones bull****.
Dariusz M said he would have fought In America,Jones didnt want the fight end of story.
Roy Jones ducked the best guy in the division and then fought lesser guys for the two straps that Dariusz had vacated

Yeah, he was always in awful shape. Big deal.

He went from 214lbs to 167lbs in 6 weeks to make weight...24 hours later on fight night he weighed in at 184lbs 17lbs in 24 hours put back on, Even HBO couldnt believe the condition he was in.
Thats the equivalent of Ricky Hatton in his current state making the 140lb limit for a fight in Early March
Hatton has actually said it will take him 5 months to lost over 50lbs to be ready for a summer fight whereas Toney starved himself to do it in a measley 6 weeks.

[True Guru]

The funniest thing about Jones fans is that they claim Toney as a great win yet blame the loss to Tarver on Roys weight draining.