Did Roy Jones handpick his opponents?

[CCobra]

Elephant Man is on a roll here. Agree with everything he's saying.

PS: it's Pea

[Obama]

EM is a RJJ historian. Sadly this is as far as his history knowledge goes. :P

[General Zod]

The funniest thing about Jones fans is that they claim Toney as a great win yet blame the loss to Tarver on Roys weight draining.

Well the Jones fans say that losing muscle is different to losing fat

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Toney started camp 6 weeks before the Jones fight,He entered camp weighing 214lbs..in 6 weeks he starved himself down to 167lbs.
Its not fabrications,its the truth,sorry.



Joe Calzaghe went 15 years unbeaten,so according to your logic he was always in his prime.
A few fights after Jones,Hopkins was put on his ass and drew with a straight up bum..prime Hopkins? yeah sure he was.





More Jones bull****.
Dariusz M said he would have fought In America,Jones didnt want the fight end of story.
Roy Jones ducked the best guy in the division and then fought lesser guys for the two straps that Dariusz had vacated




He went from 214lbs to 167lbs in 6 weeks to make weight...24 hours later on fight night he weighed in at 184lbs 17lbs in 24 hours put back on, Even HBO couldnt believe the condition he was in.
Thats the equivalent of Ricky Hatton in his current state making the 140lb limit for a fight in Early March
Hatton has actually said it will take him 5 months to lost over 50lbs to be ready for a summer fight whereas Toney starved himself to do it in a measley 6 weeks.

I'm not quite sure why it's Jones fault James Toney couldn't stay in shape. Toney has been out of shape for much of his career.

Secondly, Dariusz Michalchewski stating that he'd fight Jones in the US means squat. Negotiations between Square Ring and Universum were so ridiculous that HBO stepped in to negotiate with Klaus Peter-Kohl personally. And they left with the same impression Square Ring had: Universum did not want the fight; not in the US anyway.

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Well the Jones fans say that losing muscle is different to losing fat

Toney being out of shape is an excuse that doesn't hold water. He's been out of shape for plenty of fights. He's never lost 12-0 aside from one though.

[General Zod]

Toney being out of shape is an excuse that doesn't hold water. He's been out of shape for plenty of fights. He's never lost 12-0 aside from one though.

Thats not exactly true one of the refs gave him a round and when asked why he said," because Toney turned up."

[donkim]

PS: it's Pea

Grow up.Nobody cares if you know him from another forum,you sad ****.You should try looking for friends in the real world rather than on the internet.

[General Zod]

Grow up.Nobody cares if you know him from another forum,you sad ****.You should try looking for friends in the real world rather than on the internet.

God bless you Donkim making friends as usual I see
ps-Thats a seriously shocking bhop avatar as well

[True Guru]

Elephant Man is on a roll here. Agree with everything he's saying.

PS: it's Pea

Hey Pea,Hows things?

EM is a RJJ historian. Sadly this is as far as his history knowledge goes. :P

Stop baiting *****

Well the Jones fans say that losing muscle is different to losing fat

Thats cus they are ******.

I'm not quite sure why it's Jones fault James Toney couldn't stay in shape. Toney has been out of shape for much of his career.

Secondly, Dariusz Michalchewski stating that he'd fight Jones in the US means squat. Negotiations between Square Ring and Universum were so ridiculous that HBO stepped in to negotiate with Klaus Peter-Kohl personally. And they left with the same impression Square Ring had: Universum did not want the fight; not in the US anyway.

Like I said Toney was in disgraceful condition and deserved an ass kicking,Im glad Roy beat him but lets not kid ourselves and say he was 100% fit.

Toney being out of shape is an excuse that doesn't hold water. He's been out of shape for plenty of fights. He's never lost 12-0 aside from one though.

What other fights did he starve himself to lose 47lbs in 6 weeks?

Grow up.Nobody cares if you know him from another forum,you sad ****.You should try looking for friends in the real world rather than on the internet.

Does baby want his bottle?

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Like I said Toney was in disgraceful condition and deserved an ass kicking,Im glad Roy beat him but lets not kid ourselves and say he was 100% fit.

What other fights did he starve himself to lose 47lbs in 6 weeks?

How would we know? He only needed it as an excuse when he got his a** beat from pillar to post. I don't doubt it at all but when he was killing himself and winning, it was fine. But if he was able to gain THAT much weight in between fights - and he was notorious for that - then I would assume it wouldn't be the first time. Especially since he had only fought four months before and looked tremendous. When has Toney not struggled to make weight? He can barely make HEAVY.

Anyway, that's neither here nor there. The Toney win is a great, great win for Jones. A future hall of famer in his prime; an undefeated two-time champ who was as feared as any back then. And barely won a minute. Weight? Maybe. Something tells me no version of Toney was touching Roy that night.