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  • #71
    Originally posted by CarlosG815 View Post
    I agree with you 100% that his skills were a shadow of what they were but even so he was still a much above average Heavyweight. In all honesty he wasn't at the top of his game anytime after 87-88.
    It was over by then King, Givens, not wanting to train, parasites, **********s and taking all of that unneccesary anti depression medication, talk about a bad mix. He was just fighting for the money, moreso after prison.

    Over here a boxer called Barry McGuigan said its best to remember tTyson from 1986-1988 and I have to agree with him. He had no business losing to the likes of Lewis and Holyfield imo.

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    • #72
      Originally posted by Agentsmith View Post
      I vaguely remember Jones talkung about Tyson, but wasnt Jones asking for an insane amount of money?
      I honestly don't remember any serious negotiations. I don't even think it made it to the negotiation stage between them, but was more of a fight that the media and other journalists were speculating.

      Roy's style is made for a guy like Tyson. Jones was an outside fighter and we all know how Tyson loved those guys. He was brilliant at getting inside and once he did they were just as good as dead.

      That Ruiz fight was lame anyway. Didn't it go to a split decision?

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      • #73
        Originally posted by CarlosG815 View Post
        You ****ing moron. It's called a FANTASY fight. We're not talking time frames. Gee, who would win a prime Tyson or a prime Louis. Gee, seeing as how Louis was ****ing dead, I guess Tyson would take that one.

        And if you seriously think Jones could beat Tyson cause he beat Ruiz it just further solidifies the fact that you're a ****ing idiot. Ruiz was never an all time great, and if Ruiz was even an above average champion, RJJ wouldn't have taken a fight with him.

        I know you're young and dumb, but at least watch these guys and how they fight, because it's obvious you don't know your film.

        Go smoke another fatty and
        look, i see your obviously slow, but if we are talkin about who jones COULD'VE fought "AT THE TIME"
        why would you take a tyson in the 80's or some**** against a jones of the 90's to see who would win when the fight between the two was closest to being made in the 00's?

        do you understand what im sayin or do i have to repeat and rephrase it a couple more times? or do you understand but just cant take being wrong so are further digging yourself a hole?

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        • #74
          Originally posted by Agentsmith View Post
          Over here a boxer called Barry McGuigan said its best to remember tTyson from 1986-1988 and I have to agree with him. He had no business losing to the likes of Lewis and Holyfield imo.
          Amen brother. Lewis is the most over rated heavyweight ever. Talk about a boring fighter with no legitimate skill, feet, power or style.

          I can't stand watching him fight.

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          • #75
            Originally posted by CarlosG815 View Post
            I honestly don't remember any serious negotiations. I don't even think it made it to the negotiation stage between them, but was more of a fight that the media and other journalists were speculating.

            Roy's style is made for a guy like Tyson. Jones was an outside fighter and we all know how Tyson loved those guys. He was brilliant at getting inside and once he did they were just as good as dead.

            That Ruiz fight was lame anyway. Didn't it go to a split decision?
            i hope to god your not talking about jones-ruiz, cuz if you are you should just leave this forum, you clearly no **** all

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            • #76
              Originally posted by CarlosG815 View Post
              I honestly don't remember any serious negotiations. I don't even think it made it to the negotiation stage between them, but was more of a fight that the media and other journalists were speculating.
              I dont think it was ever seriously considered

              Originally posted by CarlosG815 View Post
              Roy's style is made for a guy like Tyson. Jones was an outside fighter and we all know how Tyson loved those guys. He was brilliant at getting inside and once he did they were just as good as dead.
              Tyson at this point had lost to both Holyfield and Lewis and was just fighting to pay off his debts. I think we are talking about the version of Tyson that beat Clifford Ettiene, due to his power I would still give him a good chance against Jones though
              Originally posted by CarlosG815 View Post
              That Ruiz fight was lame anyway. Didn't it go to a split decision?
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              I thought the Ruiz fight was cool, but Jones won it by a clear ud if I remember correctly.

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              • #77
                Originally posted by tehMatrix View Post
                look, i see your obviously slow, but if we are talkin about who jones COULD'VE fought "AT THE TIME"
                why would you take a tyson in the 80's or some**** against a jones of the 90's to see who would win when the fight between the two was closest to being made in the 00's?

                do you understand what im sayin or do i have to repeat and rephrase it a couple more times? or do you understand but just cant take being wrong so are further digging yourself a hole?
                If you seriously believe that Jones could beat Tyson at any point in either of their careers, Jones at his best, Tyson at his worst, then you seriously have no business talking about boxing. It's impossible to take you serious when you make ****** ass claims.

                Take a midol, and I'll say it again -

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                • #78
                  Originally posted by CarlosG815 View Post
                  Amen brother. Lewis is the most over rated heavyweight ever. Talk about a boring fighter with no legitimate skill, feet, power or style.

                  I can't stand watching him fight.
                  Lewis was awful in my opinion with his jab and clinch style, the dude ducked so many fighters it was unreal and people consider him a ATG

                  My favorite Lewis fights are Oliver McCall I and Rahman I, can you guess why?lol

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                  • #79
                    Originally posted by Agentsmith View Post
                    Toney has said that he had come to terms with that loss and wanted to have a rematch at lhw. A rematch with Toney would of been more meaningful than fights with the Lou de Vales of the world at LHW.
                    i really wanted to see a RJJ - toney rematch but maybe better for james at cruiser, after toney got robbed against griffin ( the 2nd fight) he started coming into 175 lb fights weighin 200 lbs and lost his motivation. the real james toney didn't come back until he fought jirov at 190 lbs


                    Originally posted by Agentsmith View Post
                    Lewis was awful in my opinion with his jab and clinch style, the dude ducked so many fighters it was unreal and people consider him a ATG

                    My favorite Lewis fights are Oliver McCall I and Rahman I, can you guess why?lol
                    lewis refused to fight chris byrd, that pissed me off because i really wanted to see that fight. lewis said byrd had " no chance " but he dropped a belt so he wouldn't have to fight byrd, if byrd really had "no chance " why not prove it to the world by stopping him. i think the real reason lewis refused to fight byrd was that even if he won (the prime) byrd's skills had a way of making his opponents look bad, it was looking bad that lewis was afraid of - a ***** move. i lost my respect for lewis after that

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                    • #80
                      Originally posted by CarlosG815 View Post
                      If you seriously believe that Jones could beat Tyson at any point in either of their careers, Jones at his best, Tyson at his worst, then you seriously have no business talking about boxing. It's impossible to take you serious when you make ****** ass claims.

                      Take a midol, and I'll say it again -
                      really? not even the version who lost to williams and mcbride?

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