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  • #61
    Originally posted by CarlosG815 View Post
    Tyson in his prime was an all around perfect specimen of a heavyweight, inside-offensive brawler/boxer. I genuinely believe that NO heavyweight at any point in time could beat a PRIME Mike Tyson, let alone a guy like Roy Jones Jr.

    Tyson was a great fighter no doubt, but he never had the mental toughness of a great fighter. Its a shame really things should of went very differently for him.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by Agentsmith View Post
      Tyson was a great fighter no doubt, but he never had the mental toughness of a great fighter. Its a shame really things should of went very differently for him.
      ??? What makes you say that? His mental toughness was never in question during his prime, only after he got tired of the sport and would rather enjoy his 300 million with strippers.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by CarlosG815 View Post
        Tyson couldn't have been serious. Jones at heavyweight couldn't touch Tyson.

        Don't let Tyson ferocious punching power overshadow the rest of his ability. That's what everybody does. They look at Tyson and only credit his punching power when in reality he was the most evasive, fastest, best combo punching heavyweight of all time. I really don't care what anybody says, what I just listed is my opinion, but if you look at the speed of Tyson compared to other heavyweights, the guy was just blazing.

        I would say that he could duck, dodge, and throw blazing combos at heavyweight faster than RJJ could at middleweight.

        Tyson in his prime was an all around perfect specimen of a heavyweight, inside-offensive brawler/boxer. I genuinely believe that NO heavyweight at any point in time could beat a PRIME Mike Tyson, let alone a guy like Roy Jones Jr.

        no one is talking about prime tyson tho are they, try and keep up

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        • #64
          Originally posted by CarlosG815 View Post
          ??? What makes you say that? His mental toughness was never in question during his prime, only after he got tired of the sport and would rather enjoy his 300 million with strippers.
          Of course is hard to put an exact time frame on his prime but lets say from Berbick to Spinks.If you watch the Tucker fight when he realised he couldnt get Tucker out of there you notice his workrate started to drop. to the point where Rooney was screaming at him to use the jab and finish the last couple of rounds strong. He never liked training hard after Cus Damato died as well, and started to skip training sessions afterwords

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          • #65
            Originally posted by tehMatrix View Post
            no one is talking about prime tyson tho are they, try and keep up
            lol actually whenever you talk a fantasy fight you always consider prime vs prime, but nice try at being a smart ass.

            And if you watch the Tyson vs Ruddock 2 fight you'll see that Tyson fought hard for 12 rounds and never slowed up mentally. He did get a little tired, but you have to give Ruddock props, he got his jaw shattered and his face pulverized and kept coming back for more and dishing shots of his own.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by CarlosG815 View Post
              lol actually whenever you talk a fantasy fight you always consider prime vs prime, but nice try at being a smart ass.
              no idiot, again, when jones was at heavyweight he called out tyson and tyson didn't want none
              can you guess what year jones was at heavyweight?

              why would we compare a prime jones(which isn't at heavyweight) to a prime tyson?
              are you ******? try and keep up

              jones could've and would've handed tyson an asswhoopin if tyson had answered his call at the time after he beat ruiz

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              • #67
                Originally posted by CarlosG815 View Post
                And if you watch the Tyson vs Ruddock 2 fight you'll see that Tyson fought hard for 12 rounds and never slowed up mentally. He did get a little tired, but you have to give Ruddock props, he got his jaw shattered and his face pulverized and kept coming back for more and dishing shots of his own.
                By that time in his career his skills had entirely eroded, his head movement and combination punching had gone out of the window. Its been a while since Ive seen that fight so I cant comment on it. I also remember the Pinklon Thomas fight were he seemed to take the middle rounds off.

                The end started first with the death of Cus and then with the death of Jim Jacobs. He didnt want to train anymore and im sure if he wanted to he could of stopped so many of his opponents clinching him like they did. Teddy atlas talks about a lot of this in his autobiography

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by tehMatrix View Post
                  no idiot, again, when jones was at heavyweight he called out tyson and tyson didn't want none
                  can you guess what year jones was at heavyweight?

                  why would we compare a prime jones(which isn't at heavyweight) to a prime tyson?
                  are you ******? try and keep up

                  jones could've and would've handed tyson an asswhoopin if tyson had answered his call at the time after he beat ruiz
                  You ****ing moron. It's called a FANTASY fight. We're not talking time frames. Gee, who would win a prime Tyson or a prime Louis. Gee, seeing as how Louis was ****ing dead, I guess Tyson would take that one.

                  And if you seriously think Jones could beat Tyson cause he beat Ruiz it just further solidifies the fact that you're a ****ing idiot. Ruiz was never an all time great, and if Ruiz was even an above average champion, RJJ wouldn't have taken a fight with him.

                  I know you're young and dumb, but at least watch these guys and how they fight, because it's obvious you don't know your film.

                  Go smoke another fatty and

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by tehMatrix View Post
                    jones could've and would've handed tyson an asswhoopin if tyson had answered his call at the time after he beat ruiz
                    I vaguely remember Jones talkung about Tyson, but wasnt Jones asking for an insane amount of money?

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by Agentsmith View Post
                      By that time in his career his skills had entirely eroded, his head movement and combination punching had gone out of the window. Its been a while since Ive seen that fight so I cant comment on it. I also remember the Pinklon Thomas fight were he seemed to take the middle rounds off.

                      The end started first with the death of Cus and then with the death of Jim Jacobs. He didnt want to train anymore and im sure if he wanted to he could of stopped so many of his opponents clinching him like they did. Teddy atlas talks about a lot of this in his autobiography
                      I agree with you 100% that his skills were a shadow of what they were but even so he was still a much above average Heavyweight. In all honesty he wasn't at the top of his game anytime after 87-88.

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