Why We Never Saw Foreman-Tyson

[Southpaw Stinger]

Actually Foreman very well could have been intimidated, I mean Big George himself admitted that he was scared to death of Joe Frazier when he fought him

George was scared of Frazier - and look what he did to Joe, fear made him stronger.

continues to duck Larry Holmes to this day. Hell, the almost 60 something

What I think is why he don't want to box anymore. Whats it gonna prove?

[La_Vibora]

marciano is just as overrated, if not more than tyson.

Please explain this one in depth please of how Marciano was overrated.

[La_Vibora]

George was scared of Frazier - and look what he did to Joe, fear made him stronger.



What I think is why he don't want to box anymore. Whats it gonna prove?

Well lets be real, Foreman would not have beaten Larry Holmes during any era, even Foreman himself knows that, which is why he never wanted any piece of Larry. I could see Larry circling him while popping his 1-2 all night long, working his jab, and keeping George from setting his feet. I have a feeling that fight would have looked similar to the Holmes-Shavers fight, with Larry dominating the fight.

[Heckler]

Well lets be real, Foreman would not have beaten Larry Holmes during any era, even Foreman himself knows that, which is why he never wanted any piece of Larry. I could see Larry circling him while popping his 1-2 all night long, working his jab, and keeping George from setting his feet. I have a feeling that fight would have looked similar to the Holmes-Shavers fight, with Larry dominating the fight.

Lets be real? Circling while popping the 1-2 all night long, keeping George from setting his feet? Its quite possible that after Joe Frazier George Foreman is the best HW ever at cutting the ring before he was beaten by Ali. Before he lost that self-confidence and became tentative in the ring Foreman would cut his opponent off with his huge strides and manipulate them into position with his physical strength. The only thing Shavers and Foreman have in common is huge punching power, Shavers certainly didn't have the physical strength nor the ability cut the ring like Foreman did. If Ali whom in the first few rounds even in 74' could move better than Holmes did found that it wasn't feasible to move from Foreman all night what chance do you think Holmes has of running all night? It's possible Holmes would win, but he would be forced to fight at Foreman's range and absorb huge punishment... could he do it? possibly but he will not simply outbox Foreman.

[hemichromis]

Well lets be real, Foreman would not have beaten Larry Holmes during any era, even Foreman himself knows that, which is why he never wanted any piece of Larry. I could see Larry circling him while popping his 1-2 all night long, working his jab, and keeping George from setting his feet. I have a feeling that fight would have looked similar to the Holmes-Shavers fight, with Larry dominating the fight.

thats exactl what ali tried to do at the start of his match but he found foreman could move too quickly.

the two prime fighters would probablt be a foreman win in 3rd or 4th round IMO

both fighters at 42 i stil favour foreman but it would probably be a later roud ko or more likely a UD win

[La_Vibora]

Lets be real? Circling while popping the 1-2 all night long, keeping George from setting his feet? Its quite possible that after Joe Frazier George Foreman is the best HW ever at cutting the ring before he was beaten by Ali. Before he lost that self-confidence and became tentative in the ring Foreman would cut his opponent off with his huge strides and manipulate them into position with his physical strength. The only thing Shavers and Foreman have in common is huge punching power, Shavers certainly didn't have the physical strength nor the ability cut the ring like Foreman did. If Ali whom in the first few rounds even in 74' could move better than Holmes did found that it wasn't feasible to move from Foreman all night what chance do you think Holmes has of running all night? It's possible Holmes would win, but he would be forced to fight at Foreman's range and absorb huge punishment... could he do it? possibly but he will not simply outbox Foreman.

Agreed, when I was making the comparison to Shavers, I meant in the sense that Larry would have controlled the fight. While Foreman was better at cutting off the ring than Shavers, he still had difficulty with moving targets, which is why fighters coming forward like Joe Frazier got dismantled easily, whereas a fighter like Larry who could fight going backwards had a much better shot at beating George. Another problem with Foreman was that he wasn't very good at pacing himself, as confirmed by Ali and later Jimmy Young, if he could make it out of the first 5 or 6 rounds, then I could certainly see Larry taking over somewhere around round 7 or 8, and more than likely KOing him in the later rounds. I do agree that Larry would have had to probably take some shots early on, however Larry was very tough, and would have been able to stand it. I mean I just can't help thinking how he looked like he got shot when Shavers floored him in their fight, and yet he got back on his feet to take care of business. I think you are underrating Larry here.

[La_Vibora]

thats exactl what ali tried to do at the start of his match but he found foreman could move too quickly.

the two prime fighters would probablt be a foreman win in 3rd or 4th round IMO

both fighters at 42 i stil favour foreman but it would probably be a later roud ko or more likely a UD win

Well you are certainly more confident than George is, thats for sure, seeing how George has never shown any interest at all in fighting Larry, despite it being an obvious fight to make for so long.

[Southpaw Stinger]

Well you are certainly more confident than George is, thats for sure, seeing how George has never shown any interest at all in fighting Larry, despite it being an obvious fight to make for so long.

Again, what reason does George have fighting Larry Holmes? Especially now.

[butterfly1964]

Please explain this one in depth please of how Marciano was overrated.

His power is overrated because many fighters he fought had weak chins or were very old or both. His chin is overraed, because he didn't stand up to huge punchers like george foreman and mike tyson. His biggest wins are over light hw charles and old man walcott and old man louis.

[butterfly1964]

Well lets be real, Foreman would not have beaten Larry Holmes during any era, even Foreman himself knows that, which is why he never wanted any piece of Larry. I could see Larry circling him while popping his 1-2 all night long, working his jab, and keeping George from setting his feet. I have a feeling that fight would have looked similar to the Holmes-Shavers fight, with Larry dominating the fight.

On the contrary it is Holmes who wants no part of foreman. Foreman wanted to fight Holmes in the late 70's, to tune up for jimmy young and possibly a rematch with ali, but Holmes declined.