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  • #81
    If Tyson was a ***** for ''ducking''(bull**** from haters) Foreman.

    Then Foreman is the biggest ***** for ducking Quarry and Holmes!!

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    • #82
      Originally posted by Yaman
      If Tyson was a ***** for ''ducking''(bull**** from haters) Foreman.

      Then Foreman is the biggest ***** for ducking Quarry and Holmes!!
      Foreman didn't duck quarry. when quarry was in his prime, foreman just started. when foreman was in his prime, quarry was fading already. and it is holmes that ducked foreman, not the other way around.

      Tyson however avoided the issue time and time again about fighting foreman and he obviously wanted no part of him.

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      • #83
        Originally posted by butterfly1964
        Foreman didn't duck quarry. when quarry was in his prime, foreman just started. when foreman was in his prime, quarry was fading already. and it is holmes that ducked foreman, not the other way around.

        Tyson however avoided the issue time and time again about fighting foreman and he obviously wanted no part of him.
        Well then Foreman avoided Quarry time after time again. And he has said it openly aswell. Tyson however not. There is no proof of it, except for a guy that claims Tyson said this and that. The guy had absolutely NOTHING to prove it. Nothing to back it up. No audio, video blabla. nothing.

        I'll say it again.
        If Tyson was a ***** for ''ducking''(bull**** from haters) Foreman.

        Then Foreman is the biggest ***** for ducking Quarry and Holmes!!

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        • #84
          Originally posted by butterfly1964
          On the contrary it is Holmes who wants no part of foreman. Foreman wanted to fight Holmes in the late 70's, to tune up for jimmy young and possibly a rematch with ali, but Holmes declined.
          Oh come on now, at that time Larry Holmes was still green and his management felt that he was not ready to fight George Foreman yet. That is like me saying that Miguel Cotto is ducking Floyd Mayweather because Bob Arum feels he still needs to get some more fights under his belt first. Larry Holmes has been calling out George Forman since the 80s, hell watch the Larry Holmes "Beyond the Glory" show where at the end Larry says he is retired, but the one fight he would comeback for would be George Foreman, who he said has been running from him for years. Hell, I even remember during an HBO telecast during the 90's where they mentioned to George the possibility of him fighting Foreman, and he wouldn't even acknowledge the comment. So yes, Foreman did duck Holmes, Quarry, and Shavers. BTW, I don't dislike Foreman either, I actually am a fan of his.

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          • #85
            Originally posted by Ceratogyrus
            Foreman old or young had the perfect style for Tyson. Remember how Tyson mentally fell to pieces when Holyfield started shoving him around the ring.
            Foreman adopted this strategy all the time to create punching room. He would have taken Tyson punches and stood his ground.
            I think Tyson was a great fighter but styles make fights and Foreman had the perfect antidote to Tyson.
            Tyson wasn't ******, maybe a bit arrogant at times, but not ******...he knew he wasn't in his prime any longer and when he noticed in the ring that Holyfield wasn't shot like people were saying, and knowing that he was, he knew he didn't have a great chance. Tyson even said after his last fight that his career was over in "1990"...I would say it was over after he got rid of Rooney, but I will give him those last moments.

            Old Foreman had a chance against Tyson (after leaving Rooney) because Tyson's confidence wasn't as strong, but i would still favor Tyson since Foreman, though powerfull, I just don't think he was as powerfull as he once was, nor did he have speed (which wasn't as bad as most say) to keep Tyson off.

            A Prime Foreman, that is a different story. I don't buy that he wouldn't last as long as Frazier, since I think Tyson had a better chin and defense than Frazier...his ability to throw fast, sharp, and powerfull punches in both hands also deterred his opponent from throwing as many punches back.
            Tyson should of learned how to thrown his combination and bounce back out of range

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            • #86
              foreman would have seriously ****ed tyson's world up and if you disagree, let me know so I can disregard anything else you ever say about boxing ever again. and im talking old foreman.

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              • #87
                Old Foreman would have beaten the living **** out of any version of Tyson, even when Cus was alive

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                • #88
                  Originally posted by SquareCircle
                  foreman would have seriously ****ed tyson's world up and if you disagree, let me know so I can disregard anything else you ever say about boxing ever again. and im talking old foreman.
                  I disagree

                  Young Foreman is different but old Foreman just stood in one place...it wouldn't be that hard to have Tyson move around a bit; you don't need to dance like Ali, just move around like Michael Moorer did, except don't be ****** and stay right in front of him. Foreman did not seem to have the same power as he once had in my opinion...proof his is KO ratio went down and fighters that most likely would of been knocked out before, seem to be able to stand up,
                  That's why I talk about Foreman's speed: people like to comment that he was really slow, but watch his fights from his youth and he wasn't "really slow", average in speed, yes, but not slow.
                  I think it has a lot to do with his loading up of punches that made him seem slow, but just look at when he threw his jab...those punches that were just straight down the middle were not slow at all.


                  A nice weapon that the young Foreman had was his use of the uppercut...a great example is the uppercut he used that nearly took of Frazier's head...that punch always gave Tyson trouble, and with Foreman's power, it could be bedtime early.

                  Let's not forget that according to Earnie Shavers, Foreman told him that he ducked him his entire career because of his power.
                  Tyson doesn't hit like Frazier, but with his speed, combinations, chin, and very good power, he could give Foreman trouble.
                  If I were Foreman, I would use that jab he used in his early part of his career...great example is even as early as his victory over the Russian guy for the Gold Medal...that jab was beautiful and brutal
                  Last edited by Abe Attell; 09-02-2006, 10:00 PM.

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                  • #89
                    slipx put down the bottle. George Foreman the greatest? OMG what a crazy ass thing to say. Dempsey would have dooubled him over with body shots. Ali boxed him into the ground, and so did little Jimmy Young. George Foreman was the technically most unsound fighter of all time. In all the fights I've seen him in I think I've counted 6 straight punches. When those big bombs came in from the side Jimmy young went underneath and answered with shots to his face, making him look ******. I can see the point of a bobbing weaving fighter being made for a looping puncher, being he is bound to weave into a few of those hard shots. Given the guy could hit hard but there is so much more to the sweet science than being able to punch down a house. **** man get real.

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                    • #90
                      Originally posted by kidslug
                      slipx put down the bottle. George Foreman the greatest? OMG what a crazy ass thing to say. Dempsey would have dooubled him over with body shots. Ali boxed him into the ground, and so did little Jimmy Young. George Foreman was the technically most unsound fighter of all time. In all the fights I've seen him in I think I've counted 6 straight punches. When those big bombs came in from the side Jimmy young went underneath and answered with shots to his face, making him look ******. I can see the point of a bobbing weaving fighter being made for a looping puncher, being he is bound to weave into a few of those hard shots. Given the guy could hit hard but there is so much more to the sweet science than being able to punch down a house. **** man get real.
                      and yet he dominated the division in one of its high points knocking out the champ and the no 1 contender in 2 rounds each!

                      your right foreman couldn't fight!!!

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